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	<title>Comments on: School funding woes in New Jersey</title>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/school-funding-woes-in-new-jersey/comment-page-1#comment-4014</link>
		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;foundational documents&#039; (?) of which you speak define the Federal gov&#039;t; enumerating the authority and limits of its three branches.  The People, OTOH, not only retain all other rights -- expressed and implied -- that power can be exercised to affect political mandates in law.  The nation&#039;s will on education was manifest in Congress&#039; establishment of the Dept. of HEW over 50 years ago, thereby confirming a &#039;right&#039; to education &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; a Federal role in its accommodation.



I concur with the general consensus that reforms to our school systems are urgently needed, if for no other reason than to equip as many people as possible with the tools to participate in tomorrow&#039;s economy.  However, while reforms without comparative measures of performance (or,  &#039;accountability&#039;) are meaningless, so are reforms that function as ultimatums and/or presume their standards to be sound and just.  This explains in part why NCLB is bad law, including its conspicuous lack of uniform and realistic achievement metrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;foundational documents&#8217; (?) of which you speak define the Federal gov&#8217;t; enumerating the authority and limits of its three branches.  The People, OTOH, not only retain all other rights &#8212; expressed and implied &#8212; that power can be exercised to affect political mandates in law.  The nation&#8217;s will on education was manifest in Congress&#8217; establishment of the Dept. of HEW over 50 years ago, thereby confirming a &#8216;right&#8217; to education <i>and</i> a Federal role in its accommodation.</p>
<p>I concur with the general consensus that reforms to our school systems are urgently needed, if for no other reason than to equip as many people as possible with the tools to participate in tomorrow&#8217;s economy.  However, while reforms without comparative measures of performance (or,  &#8216;accountability&#8217;) are meaningless, so are reforms that function as ultimatums and/or presume their standards to be sound and just.  This explains in part why NCLB is bad law, including its conspicuous lack of uniform and realistic achievement metrics.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/school-funding-woes-in-new-jersey/comment-page-1#comment-4013</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a chart I found not too long ago that listed the steps it would take to actually fire a teacher in NY. From what I could remember, one would have to almost be found guilty of the assassination of a head of state before drastic steps were taken. I&#039;ll locate it and post it under the Research tab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a chart I found not too long ago that listed the steps it would take to actually fire a teacher in NY. From what I could remember, one would have to almost be found guilty of the assassination of a head of state before drastic steps were taken. I&#8217;ll locate it and post it under the Research tab.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with many of your points here.  It&#039;s seldom I find someone who agrees with  me. :)



Unfortunately, while I agree that NCLB could be heralded for its accountability, the reality is that it has been so watered down that accountability does not exist.  I have yet to see an administrator replaced.



Which gets us to the ultimate issue: the federal government has no role whatsoever in education.  If it would step aside as it should, states might find the flexibility they need to enact change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with many of your points here.  It&#8217;s seldom I find someone who agrees with  me. <img src='http://www.blackinformant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Unfortunately, while I agree that NCLB could be heralded for its accountability, the reality is that it has been so watered down that accountability does not exist.  I have yet to see an administrator replaced.</p>
<p>Which gets us to the ultimate issue: the federal government has no role whatsoever in education.  If it would step aside as it should, states might find the flexibility they need to enact change.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d be careful if I were you to avoid minimizing a perceived Ã¢â‚¬ËœrightÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to education or scapegoating teachersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ unions.&lt;/i&gt;



What is there to be careful of? None of the foundational documents of this nation mention education as a right. Education is a privilege. What folks want to &quot;perceive&quot; is on them. As far as teachers unions go, while they are not the sole culprit behind poor school systems, these unions have consistently shown that the financial comfort of their members comes before the quality of education they are supposed to give--especially in lower-income areas. Also I think that it is also fair to mention here that these selfish demands originate more from the union system itself than the teachers (in most school districts, teachers are not given the option to opt out of membership or paying dues).



&lt;i&gt;Politicians, Democrat and Republican, mostly use education today as a wedge issue.&lt;/i&gt;



I can agree with this to a measure. While I do have some issues with NCLB, the one thing that I do like about it is that it forces schools to meet certain objectives or lose funding. No need to continue to fund a school if the average GPA is below college entry requirements. Democrats have fought against &lt;b&gt;ANY&lt;/b&gt; notion of real accountability on public schools and school choice for parents who are locked in a underperforming school district.



One of the unfortunate things that has happened as a result of NCLB is that in many instances, schools have either lowered standards in order to give the appearance that students are &quot;excelling&quot; in certain subjects. Only when these kids apply for college do they realize the extent of the damage. I would not be surprised that in the next 20 years of so that college will be blended in with primary education in order to cover this growing problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d be careful if I were you to avoid minimizing a perceived Ã¢â‚¬ËœrightÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ to education or scapegoating teachersÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ unions.</i></p>
<p>What is there to be careful of? None of the foundational documents of this nation mention education as a right. Education is a privilege. What folks want to &#8220;perceive&#8221; is on them. As far as teachers unions go, while they are not the sole culprit behind poor school systems, these unions have consistently shown that the financial comfort of their members comes before the quality of education they are supposed to give&#8211;especially in lower-income areas. Also I think that it is also fair to mention here that these selfish demands originate more from the union system itself than the teachers (in most school districts, teachers are not given the option to opt out of membership or paying dues).</p>
<p><i>Politicians, Democrat and Republican, mostly use education today as a wedge issue.</i></p>
<p>I can agree with this to a measure. While I do have some issues with NCLB, the one thing that I do like about it is that it forces schools to meet certain objectives or lose funding. No need to continue to fund a school if the average GPA is below college entry requirements. Democrats have fought against <b>ANY</b> notion of real accountability on public schools and school choice for parents who are locked in a underperforming school district.</p>
<p>One of the unfortunate things that has happened as a result of NCLB is that in many instances, schools have either lowered standards in order to give the appearance that students are &#8220;excelling&#8221; in certain subjects. Only when these kids apply for college do they realize the extent of the damage. I would not be surprised that in the next 20 years of so that college will be blended in with primary education in order to cover this growing problem.</p>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well... there&#039;s a serious difference between fiscal discipline and austerity -- the latter of which is closer to conservatives&#039; notion of responsibility.  But I agree that most school systems have become unwieldy political bureaucracies loaded with middle managers whom are accountable to no one.  There are no doubt countless dollars wasted on eggheaded theories, administrative and social experiments, coming from both the left and right, that have the best of intentions behind them but aren&#039;t practical as policies.



I&#039;d be careful if I were you to avoid minimizing a perceived &#039;right&#039; to education or scapegoating teachers&#039; unions.  Both positions are inherently anti-(small &#039;d&#039;) democratic and contrary to American real politik.



Politicians, Democrat and Republican, mostly use education today as a wedge issue.  The issue is rarely discussed in terms of a social investment necessary to a highly commercialized economy.  So I think it&#039;s a mistake to analyze the conditions in terms of absolute $$$ spent in a given system, especially when the objectives set forth are so ill-defined.  There&#039;s also a disagreement in our society over what constitutes &#039;education&#039; (in the abstract) and what level of achievement represents basic competency.  That&#039;s why &#039;school system X spent $Y/student&#039; doesn&#039;t have much value in a debate on improving education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230; there&#8217;s a serious difference between fiscal discipline and austerity &#8212; the latter of which is closer to conservatives&#8217; notion of responsibility.  But I agree that most school systems have become unwieldy political bureaucracies loaded with middle managers whom are accountable to no one.  There are no doubt countless dollars wasted on eggheaded theories, administrative and social experiments, coming from both the left and right, that have the best of intentions behind them but aren&#8217;t practical as policies.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be careful if I were you to avoid minimizing a perceived &#8216;right&#8217; to education or scapegoating teachers&#8217; unions.  Both positions are inherently anti-(small &#8216;d&#8217;) democratic and contrary to American real politik.</p>
<p>Politicians, Democrat and Republican, mostly use education today as a wedge issue.  The issue is rarely discussed in terms of a social investment necessary to a highly commercialized economy.  So I think it&#8217;s a mistake to analyze the conditions in terms of absolute $$$ spent in a given system, especially when the objectives set forth are so ill-defined.  There&#8217;s also a disagreement in our society over what constitutes &#8216;education&#8217; (in the abstract) and what level of achievement represents basic competency.  That&#8217;s why &#8216;school system X spent $Y/student&#8217; doesn&#8217;t have much value in a debate on improving education.</p>
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		<title>By: Saudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN.  As long as school funding is tied to property taxes.  Poor children will continue to get the short end of the stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN.  As long as school funding is tied to property taxes.  Poor children will continue to get the short end of the stick.</p>
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