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Now that’s an interesting and provocative point. No matter which side one falls on in the “nigger” debate, it still remains the case that racism provides social capital for many groups of people.

For example, what would happen to most of our non-science Phd’s? Racism is the intellectual foundation for everything they write, do they not have an interest ?

I’m not saying there isn’t racism…there plainly is, but I am saying that this is a great” thought exercise” with truth at it’s core.

Well I hope these phony black ‘conservatives continue to do so until we feel like our skin burns when we call each other ni***r!!! To call some black men phony, or conservative if we site the wrong doing of our own is ‘some dumb coon bullsh*t. Any black person who has the guts to challenge the masses of “stupid black people”-(because that’s what it is when you continue to destroy your self – STUPID, and that’s being polite) they get chastise for trying to uplift our African culture in our environment. Why? Unlike many other black people who have high tolerance for immorality, I have no love for those who hate my people including those who possess the same skin color. They are worse than the racist congress leaders. Their love of this racist and evil place has cloaked their minds, without realizing most black people (Especially this new Hip Hop generation) in this country try their best to please the white racist that give them crumbs. Our strongest voice, Hip Hop, has turned into the biggest Coon movement this world has ever seen. It is backwards, destructive towards the black self esteem, uninformative and blatantly disrespectful to every African in this place. It takes the spot light and shadows the entire black masses with a persona of ignorance. NIGGA WILL NEVER BE ACCEPTED IF YOU HAVE SELF LOVE. Stop Frontin, truth is truth and I hope that these same black men and women change and recognize their respectful African culture. If not treat em’ like the friggin klan!!!! No tolerance for disrespect, regardless of whom.

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What you just said…well…er…you said it… shall we say “outrageously” !?!??

Babies you ought to check yourselves, you’re not reading with understanding. Your comments sound IGNANT ! Now don’t get mad…it’s just a word…AND after all ” Black folk are allowed to make fun of one another in anyway we believe necessary to convey our point of view in regards to those we are making fun of” Right???????

Yet another example of everything I said earlier in this thread.

Black folk are allowed to make fun of one another in anyway we believe necessary to convey our point of view in regards to those we are making fun of. The depiction of Steele is far less outrageous than Conservative Black folk articulating white thought and ideology by way of espousing a belief in Victimhood as if being a victim and recognizing that one has been victimized makes one his own victimizer while the real culprit escapes blame free. What a Joke….

Good Night!

John l.

The sad thing is, even if I did, it still would not have mattered for those who want to disagree with me–not because I am right, but because of my personal ideologies.

One more point: This has a whole lot to do than just the N word. Please re-read if you missed that point. I look forward to your comments!

We define what words mean, they aren’t static.

So why then assume then if a white person called you a N***er, they are being demeaning? Generally speaking, black folk usually do not allow such accommodations when it comes from a white person. The situation from Eminem back in the day is a good example. Although he said repeatedly that he had no racist intent, black folk still kicked him to the curb big time.

Government officials in states like South Carolina fought like mad to keep the part Dixie flag waving over their state capital. Does this make them racist for wanting to keep “part of their history” if in fact words (and you can even throw in symbols for that matter ’cause that is what the posting was about–both are forms of expression) are not static?

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We define what words mean, they aren’t static.

Wow! So as a Christian, why regard the Bible as the word of God if words (like sin, repentance, adultery, holiness, etc.) are not “static” in their meaning?

Ultimately, you call yourself what you wish. As for me, I will not use the same terminology or stereotypical imagery to describe my people weather I agree with them or not.

Why would you write something like that, as if each and every Black person approves of using the N-word?!

If you are going to continue to come to this site, please make sure you take your sensitive pills. You always look for the devil in the details and I always prove you wrong.

Two, what about whites’ use of the pejoratives “poor white trash” and “redneck? Is this different?! Nope.

Uh, to my knowledge, whites in this country never had masters. What they call themselves is up to them. My point is that we are using the same language of folks who wanted to destroy us and our culture to define ourselves. If you are going to bring up this point, then please explain the points I raised regarding Chinese, Jews, etc.

The essential piece you, and the other Black conservatives applauding you, miss is “when Blacks use caricatures to target other Blacks, they are NOT presenting the caricature as being reflective of ALL Blacks (as whites do), but of this one particular person. Huge, huge difference.

Again, where did these caricatures come from originally?

When Blacks use denigrating images to target other Blacks, it has absolutely nothing to do with racism, which is defined as “the belief that 1) there are both superior and inferior groups of humans and that 2) physical characteristics are indicators of innate capacities, such as emotions, intelligence, temperament, etc..

So when a black person calls another black person something like “Sambo”, “Coon”, “Uncle Tom” (You know, all the names you used to call me), should I see that as you uplifting me or putting me down? If that’s putting me down….doesn’t that make you superior above me?

Criticizing an individual refers to ONLY that one person…and that’s it.

Interesting. So why should blacks still be upset when racist whites called our fore parents all kinds of demeaning names. You wasn’t around then, I wasn’t around. Since we are INDIVIDUALS, does that mean that they (meaning our parents/grandparents/etc.) were the targets and not us? If that is the case, then why should we still be mad at white folks for something they did to our parents/etc. and not to us?

All I am doing here is following your logic all the way out. Nothing is being added here.

http://www.dellgines.com/?p=330

We define what words mean, they aren’t static.

Why would you write something like that, as if each and every Black person approves of using the N-word?!

That’s what whites do: they see a few Blacks doing something and immediately jump to the conclusion that “they all must do it.”

Two, what about whites’ use of the pejoratives “poor white trash” and “redneck? Is this different?! Nope.

The main point of contention I usually have with most of your similar writings is *choice*, meaning self-definition.

The essential piece you, and the other Black conservatives applauding you, miss is “when Blacks use caricatures to target other Blacks, they are NOT presenting the caricature as being reflective of ALL Blacks (as whites do), but of this one particular person. Huge, huge difference.

Two, I know you’re familiar with the adage that “I can talk about my family, but you can’t.” The principle guiding that statement is also applied to your entire treatise regarding denigration.

When Blacks use denigrating images to target other Blacks, it has absolutely nothing to do with racism, which is defined as “the belief that 1) there are both superior and inferior groups of humans and that 2) physical characteristics are indicators of innate capacities, such as emotions, intelligence, temperament, etc..

“Groups of”…not one person.

“The common denominator with all three of the examples is that the “culprit” in all cases were non-black,” and that the *denigrating image/words* was meant to describe a particular *group* of people in a demeaning way.

Very different from demeaning or criticizing a single individual. When you criticize and deman a group, you demean even those not born yet. Criticizing an individual refers to ONLY that one person…and that’s it.

John L.