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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/project-band-aid/comment-page-1#comment-4176</link>
		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I guess personal accountablity is just never the answer.&lt;/em&gt;



On the &quot;artist&quot; side there is no reason except for personal values to be personally accountable when money is being put in your face NOT to be accountable.



Many people have gone to offending rappers and asked them to behave better to only have the rappers laugh, rattle off economic figure$, and then, rhetorically, give them the finger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I guess personal accountablity is just never the answer.</em></p>
<p>On the &#8220;artist&#8221; side there is no reason except for personal values to be personally accountable when money is being put in your face NOT to be accountable.</p>
<p>Many people have gone to offending rappers and asked them to behave better to only have the rappers laugh, rattle off economic figure$, and then, rhetorically, give them the finger.</p>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/project-band-aid/comment-page-1#comment-4175</link>
		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I find interesting about this effort by the NAACP and HHSAN

is the suggestion of a disconnect between authentic Hip-Hop (incl. Rap music) and what&#039;s presented as Hip-Hop by commercial media.  I&#039;ll give a Russell Simmons (some) credit for running a label whose artists&#039; lyrics certainly weren&#039;t as notorious and potentially offensive as those featured by other, larger companies.  DefJam, of course, is now part of one of those larger media conglomerates, so Simmons&#039; voice should illustrate the relationship between artists, labels, and media outlets is far more intricate than conventional wisdom suggests.  The Talib Kwelis and Commons are being produced; their production is often judged not commercially viable by the Sony-BMGs, Viacoms and ClearChannels.  We should be real about who really controls what enters the public sphere if we&#039;re going to attempt its mediation.  L&#039;il Jon and Bun B don&#039;t own any radio or TV stations.



I&#039;m not a big fan of bleeping words for two reasons: 1) it insults the audience&#039;s intelligence; 2) any list will inevitably become too unwieldy to enforce efficiently.  But I think it has potential as a somewhat practical compromise where art and commerce intersect in a free society.  Bleeping lyrics is already commonplace along with &#039;clean&#039; radio/video edits, so all Simmons is talking about is adding words to be bleeped.  Again, adding more words for bleeping seems kind of silly to me but the basic idea does have (some) merit as a political exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I find interesting about this effort by the NAACP and HHSAN</p>
<p>is the suggestion of a disconnect between authentic Hip-Hop (incl. Rap music) and what&#8217;s presented as Hip-Hop by commercial media.  I&#8217;ll give a Russell Simmons (some) credit for running a label whose artists&#8217; lyrics certainly weren&#8217;t as notorious and potentially offensive as those featured by other, larger companies.  DefJam, of course, is now part of one of those larger media conglomerates, so Simmons&#8217; voice should illustrate the relationship between artists, labels, and media outlets is far more intricate than conventional wisdom suggests.  The Talib Kwelis and Commons are being produced; their production is often judged not commercially viable by the Sony-BMGs, Viacoms and ClearChannels.  We should be real about who really controls what enters the public sphere if we&#8217;re going to attempt its mediation.  L&#8217;il Jon and Bun B don&#8217;t own any radio or TV stations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of bleeping words for two reasons: 1) it insults the audience&#8217;s intelligence; 2) any list will inevitably become too unwieldy to enforce efficiently.  But I think it has potential as a somewhat practical compromise where art and commerce intersect in a free society.  Bleeping lyrics is already commonplace along with &#8216;clean&#8217; radio/video edits, so all Simmons is talking about is adding words to be bleeped.  Again, adding more words for bleeping seems kind of silly to me but the basic idea does have (some) merit as a political exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: MIB</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/project-band-aid/comment-page-1#comment-4174</link>
		<dc:creator>MIB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing I find interesting about this effort by the NAACP and HHSAN

is the suggestion of a disconnect between authentic Hip-Hop (incl. Rap music) and what&#039;s presented as Hip-Hop by commercial media.  I&#039;ll give a Russell Simmons (some) credit for running a label whose artists&#039; lyrics certainly weren&#039;t as notorious and potentially offensive as those featured by other, larger companies.  DefJam, of course, is now part of one of those larger media conglomerates, so Simmons&#039; voice should illustrate the relationship between artists, labels, and media outlets is far more intricate than conventional wisdom suggests.  The Talib Kwelis and Commons are being produced; their production is often judged not commercially viable by the Sony-BMGs, Viacoms and ClearChannels.  We should be real about who really controls what enters the public sphere if we&#039;re going to attempt its mediation.  L&#039;il Jon and Bun B don&#039;t own any radio or TV stations.



I&#039;m not a big fan of bleeping words for two reasons: 1) it insults the audience&#039;s intelligence; 2) any list will inevitably become too unwieldy to enforce efficiently.  But I think it has potential as a somewhat practical compromise where art and commerce intersect in a free society.  Bleeping lyrics is already commonplace along with &#039;clean&#039; radio/video edits, so all Simmons is talking about is adding words to be bleeped.  Again, adding more words for bleeping seems kind of silly to me but the basic idea does have (some) merit as a political exercise.



Unfortunately, there are those people out here who are set on addressing this issue as a front in the culture wars.  I fear that attitude will prevail to work against our best interests in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I find interesting about this effort by the NAACP and HHSAN</p>
<p>is the suggestion of a disconnect between authentic Hip-Hop (incl. Rap music) and what&#8217;s presented as Hip-Hop by commercial media.  I&#8217;ll give a Russell Simmons (some) credit for running a label whose artists&#8217; lyrics certainly weren&#8217;t as notorious and potentially offensive as those featured by other, larger companies.  DefJam, of course, is now part of one of those larger media conglomerates, so Simmons&#8217; voice should illustrate the relationship between artists, labels, and media outlets is far more intricate than conventional wisdom suggests.  The Talib Kwelis and Commons are being produced; their production is often judged not commercially viable by the Sony-BMGs, Viacoms and ClearChannels.  We should be real about who really controls what enters the public sphere if we&#8217;re going to attempt its mediation.  L&#8217;il Jon and Bun B don&#8217;t own any radio or TV stations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of bleeping words for two reasons: 1) it insults the audience&#8217;s intelligence; 2) any list will inevitably become too unwieldy to enforce efficiently.  But I think it has potential as a somewhat practical compromise where art and commerce intersect in a free society.  Bleeping lyrics is already commonplace along with &#8216;clean&#8217; radio/video edits, so all Simmons is talking about is adding words to be bleeped.  Again, adding more words for bleeping seems kind of silly to me but the basic idea does have (some) merit as a political exercise.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, there are those people out here who are set on addressing this issue as a front in the culture wars.  I fear that attitude will prevail to work against our best interests in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Saudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess personal accountablity is just never the answer.  Until we address the situations that produce the people that behave in this manner you can picket until you wear holes in your shoes and nothing will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess personal accountablity is just never the answer.  Until we address the situations that produce the people that behave in this manner you can picket until you wear holes in your shoes and nothing will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to state this: Mos Def, Talib Kwalle (sp), Speech from Arrested Development, Quest Love, Common Sense, and some others, have stated a few times how record company execs have come to them stating they had to be more &quot;hard core.&quot; They held their ground but others didn&#039;t.



If some of those execs are white, and they are, then what?



I think a multi-pronged &quot;attack&quot; is the only thing that is going to work and it includes going after the suits with pickets. It includes buying stock and making a ruckus at the stock holders meetings. It includes going after the radio companies (Radio One, Clear Channel, etc). It includes parents saying kids can&#039;t buy certain things.



Ordinarily, I&#039;d just use the latter, but lessons need to be taught with many hickory switches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to state this: Mos Def, Talib Kwalle (sp), Speech from Arrested Development, Quest Love, Common Sense, and some others, have stated a few times how record company execs have come to them stating they had to be more &#8220;hard core.&#8221; They held their ground but others didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>If some of those execs are white, and they are, then what?</p>
<p>I think a multi-pronged &#8220;attack&#8221; is the only thing that is going to work and it includes going after the suits with pickets. It includes buying stock and making a ruckus at the stock holders meetings. It includes going after the radio companies (Radio One, Clear Channel, etc). It includes parents saying kids can&#8217;t buy certain things.</p>
<p>Ordinarily, I&#8217;d just use the latter, but lessons need to be taught with many hickory switches.</p>
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		<title>By: Saudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we also produce and fund the situations that create some of the things being said.  How many times have your been out with your wedding ring on a woman approached you.  How many times have you seen a female with skirt up her butt dropping it like it was hot.  Please if women want to be respected they must first respect themselves.  It pisses me off to no end that we have allowed this white boy(Imus) to come in a stir a pot and absolve him self of responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we also produce and fund the situations that create some of the things being said.  How many times have your been out with your wedding ring on a woman approached you.  How many times have you seen a female with skirt up her butt dropping it like it was hot.  Please if women want to be respected they must first respect themselves.  It pisses me off to no end that we have allowed this white boy(Imus) to come in a stir a pot and absolve him self of responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: rhythm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhythm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I honestly feel it&#039;s a lot more important things [to worry about],&quot; T.I. said last week in his Grand Hustle Studio in Atlanta. &quot;If you want to fix America, you have to start at George Bush and work your way down â€” you can&#039;t start at hip-hop and work your way up. Me, I got children and I&#039;m with my children every day I can be there. They know if they call somebody out there a name, if they disrespect a woman, if they do anything to imitate a 50 Cent or a Snoop Dogg or a T.I. or what they see on MTV â€” they can&#039;t blame that on hip-hop. They gonna have to deal with Daddy. [Some] parents let their children blame it on hip-hop. I think that&#039;s the beginning of the problem, personally. I think hip-hop is being used as the scapegoat.&quot;



Fat Joe took a similar tack. &quot;I know that Don Imus did not disrespect those young ladies because of hip-hop music,&quot; Joe said last week. &quot;I&#039;m 99 percent sure that he doesn&#039;t even listen to hip-hop like that. Everybody who&#039;s taking on hip-hop music are the same people who are just looking for a moment or window of opportunity. This is their moment to say, &#039;F--- hip-hop.&#039; I don&#039;t know how a 60-year-old white dude has any relation to hip-hop music. What we need to know is there is freedom of speech: That&#039;s the biggest thing. My kids listen to hip-hop, they love Dipset, they love gangsta rap. But they also do great in school.



&quot;Being that I&#039;m a father and I take great pride in having a relationship with my kids,&quot; he continued, &quot;they can listen to hip-hop and understand the difference between reality and entertainment. Some of these parents, if they don&#039;t want their kids to listen to hip-hop, tell them to listen to gospel [music]. Play some other kind of music! It ain&#039;t like anybody is forcing people to listen to hip-hop.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1557857/20070423/t_i_.jhtml?rsspartner=rssyahoo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;source&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I honestly feel it&#8217;s a lot more important things [to worry about],&#8221; T.I. said last week in his Grand Hustle Studio in Atlanta. &#8220;If you want to fix America, you have to start at George Bush and work your way down â€” you can&#8217;t start at hip-hop and work your way up. Me, I got children and I&#8217;m with my children every day I can be there. They know if they call somebody out there a name, if they disrespect a woman, if they do anything to imitate a 50 Cent or a Snoop Dogg or a T.I. or what they see on MTV â€” they can&#8217;t blame that on hip-hop. They gonna have to deal with Daddy. [Some] parents let their children blame it on hip-hop. I think that&#8217;s the beginning of the problem, personally. I think hip-hop is being used as the scapegoat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fat Joe took a similar tack. &#8220;I know that Don Imus did not disrespect those young ladies because of hip-hop music,&#8221; Joe said last week. &#8220;I&#8217;m 99 percent sure that he doesn&#8217;t even listen to hip-hop like that. Everybody who&#8217;s taking on hip-hop music are the same people who are just looking for a moment or window of opportunity. This is their moment to say, &#8216;F&#8212; hip-hop.&#8217; I don&#8217;t know how a 60-year-old white dude has any relation to hip-hop music. What we need to know is there is freedom of speech: That&#8217;s the biggest thing. My kids listen to hip-hop, they love Dipset, they love gangsta rap. But they also do great in school.</p>
<p>&#8220;Being that I&#8217;m a father and I take great pride in having a relationship with my kids,&#8221; he continued, &#8220;they can listen to hip-hop and understand the difference between reality and entertainment. Some of these parents, if they don&#8217;t want their kids to listen to hip-hop, tell them to listen to gospel [music]. Play some other kind of music! It ain&#8217;t like anybody is forcing people to listen to hip-hop.&#8221; <a href="http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1557857/20070423/t_i_.jhtml?rsspartner=rssyahoo" rel="nofollow">source</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;while we regularly boast in our ability to â€œtell it like it isâ€œ, when it comes to confronting the dark side of hip hop we cannot accept blame unless Whites are portrayed as EQUAL co-conspirators. That is the equivalent of a grown, rusty, dusty behind man stating in court â€œWell, he made me do itâ€.&lt;/em&gt;



Saudia,



Our kids are not listening to the Rolling Stones or Elvis. They are listening to music that &lt;strong&gt;we &lt;/strong&gt;produce and fund.



Where I do agree with you is how bleeping out something doesn&#039;t come close to solving the issue they are trying to address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>while we regularly boast in our ability to â€œtell it like it isâ€œ, when it comes to confronting the dark side of hip hop we cannot accept blame unless Whites are portrayed as EQUAL co-conspirators. That is the equivalent of a grown, rusty, dusty behind man stating in court â€œWell, he made me do itâ€.</em></p>
<p>Saudia,</p>
<p>Our kids are not listening to the Rolling Stones or Elvis. They are listening to music that <strong>we </strong>produce and fund.</p>
<p>Where I do agree with you is how bleeping out something doesn&#8217;t come close to solving the issue they are trying to address.</p>
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		<title>By: Saudia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me start by saying I agree people need to get off the fence.  However,  how can we clean up hip hop without first cleaning up the community.  BTW don&#039;t they already bleep out those words on the radio.  Why is it demeaning when it is rappers but okay when  the rolling stones have strippers on stage at every concert.  Where was the outrage over &quot;Brick house&quot; a song completely about a woman&#039;s body.  Or over &quot;I be stroking&quot; (Clarence Carter)  This outrage over music is not new.  Elvis was going to destroy the world because he shook his hips.  (some not all) Hip hop is a product of the environment in which it was born.  We are a highly sexualized society.  Look at prime time TV.  Almost every show has a least one sex scene  or joke about sex.  I don&#039;t hear the call to ban all TV.  But Hip Hop is the big black man that is causing all the problems in the world.  That is a bunch of BULLSHIT!!!! now censor that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start by saying I agree people need to get off the fence.  However,  how can we clean up hip hop without first cleaning up the community.  BTW don&#8217;t they already bleep out those words on the radio.  Why is it demeaning when it is rappers but okay when  the rolling stones have strippers on stage at every concert.  Where was the outrage over &#8220;Brick house&#8221; a song completely about a woman&#8217;s body.  Or over &#8220;I be stroking&#8221; (Clarence Carter)  This outrage over music is not new.  Elvis was going to destroy the world because he shook his hips.  (some not all) Hip hop is a product of the environment in which it was born.  We are a highly sexualized society.  Look at prime time TV.  Almost every show has a least one sex scene  or joke about sex.  I don&#8217;t hear the call to ban all TV.  But Hip Hop is the big black man that is causing all the problems in the world.  That is a bunch of BULLSHIT!!!! now censor that.</p>
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