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	<title>Comments on: Oprah fails the &#8220;loyalty&#8221; test</title>
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		<title>By: Tamm E Hunt</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/oprah-fails-the-loyalty-test/comment-page-1#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamm E Hunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 23:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that Oprah is a target ?



Only because she is a Power Broker and FAMOUS!



In deed Mr. Johnson&#039;s single handed revolution has in fact enable many African Americans to be known to the world through his wonder publications; EBONY &amp; JET.  But truth is he had nothing to do with the success of Oprah Winfrey as a media mogul.



We do not plan the time of death in most instances. Oprah&#039;s plans or Akashic records dictated that she would be in Hawaii minding her business and doing what she deemed as important to her and her enterprise. How about she simply may have been on hiatus designated for well deserved rest and relaxation.



She did in deed send letters of condolence to both the wife and daughter of Johnson ; Mrs Eunice Johnson and Linda Johnson Rice. She also  sent a floral peice to the offices of Johnson Publications .



My question is what does she owe  the Johnson family? The answer would be nothing.



Mr. Martin is using Ms Johnson to enhance sales for the Defender as well as giving light to himself at the expense of the Johnson Family lost. It is not that big of a deal that Oprah was not present. SHe was sympathetic and courteous. Beyond that she should not be judged.



As we continue, the BIG question is...where were all of those celebrities and atheletes whom Johnson made famous? Scan the pictures and ask for the list...where was Cicely Tyson, Maya Angelou, Bill Cosby, Diana Ross, Halle Berry, Denzel Washington, the politicians, Kwiese Mfume, Charles Rangel, Michael Jackson, Vanessa Williams, Sugar Ray Leonard...you get the picture. Where were they?



Mr Martin...what is your agenda? What is yiour point. LEAVE THE QUEEN ALONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that Oprah is a target ?</p>
<p>Only because she is a Power Broker and FAMOUS!</p>
<p>In deed Mr. Johnson&#8217;s single handed revolution has in fact enable many African Americans to be known to the world through his wonder publications; EBONY &amp; JET.  But truth is he had nothing to do with the success of Oprah Winfrey as a media mogul.</p>
<p>We do not plan the time of death in most instances. Oprah&#8217;s plans or Akashic records dictated that she would be in Hawaii minding her business and doing what she deemed as important to her and her enterprise. How about she simply may have been on hiatus designated for well deserved rest and relaxation.</p>
<p>She did in deed send letters of condolence to both the wife and daughter of Johnson ; Mrs Eunice Johnson and Linda Johnson Rice. She also  sent a floral peice to the offices of Johnson Publications .</p>
<p>My question is what does she owe  the Johnson family? The answer would be nothing.</p>
<p>Mr. Martin is using Ms Johnson to enhance sales for the Defender as well as giving light to himself at the expense of the Johnson Family lost. It is not that big of a deal that Oprah was not present. SHe was sympathetic and courteous. Beyond that she should not be judged.</p>
<p>As we continue, the BIG question is&#8230;where were all of those celebrities and atheletes whom Johnson made famous? Scan the pictures and ask for the list&#8230;where was Cicely Tyson, Maya Angelou, Bill Cosby, Diana Ross, Halle Berry, Denzel Washington, the politicians, Kwiese Mfume, Charles Rangel, Michael Jackson, Vanessa Williams, Sugar Ray Leonard&#8230;you get the picture. Where were they?</p>
<p>Mr Martin&#8230;what is your agenda? What is yiour point. LEAVE THE QUEEN ALONE!</p>
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		<title>By: Roland S. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland S. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 07:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Alice&#039;s comments to be absolutely silly.



If there was a policy not to distribute the paper on the North Side, that surely pre-dates me.



Second, in orde to do so, you must have a clear plan. It&#039;s also about critical mass.  Does it make sense to distribute a paper to a couple hundred folks on the North Side, rather than have home delivery to the South Suburbs where you have upwards of 100,000 people?



But the fact is we do have distribution points north of Roosevelt, including past downtown and on the North Side. So your argument really does ring hollow.



Lastly, I find in interesting that folks have complained about the Defender for years, yet weren&#039;t willing to fix the problem. And about the misspellings, our mistakes are about the same as the Sun-Times and the Tribune, with a fraction of the staff. And we definitely have copies of the AP Style Book. And what wrong info do you speak of? For someone who CLAIMS to not see the paper on the North Side, you sure can pontificate about what we are supposedly not doing right in the paper.



Don&#039;t make stuff up on such boards. If you have a specific complaint, bring it to my attention. By the way, before I got hre, whe

Sounds to me like a chronic complainer, rather than someone who actually cares about the paper.



By the way, before I got here, when they screwed up, there was no correction. There is now a clear policy now. If you see a mistake, don&#039;t sit there and gripe. Pick up the phone. But it sounds to be like you wrong info nonsense isn&#039;t rooted in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Alice&#8217;s comments to be absolutely silly.</p>
<p>If there was a policy not to distribute the paper on the North Side, that surely pre-dates me.</p>
<p>Second, in orde to do so, you must have a clear plan. It&#8217;s also about critical mass.  Does it make sense to distribute a paper to a couple hundred folks on the North Side, rather than have home delivery to the South Suburbs where you have upwards of 100,000 people?</p>
<p>But the fact is we do have distribution points north of Roosevelt, including past downtown and on the North Side. So your argument really does ring hollow.</p>
<p>Lastly, I find in interesting that folks have complained about the Defender for years, yet weren&#8217;t willing to fix the problem. And about the misspellings, our mistakes are about the same as the Sun-Times and the Tribune, with a fraction of the staff. And we definitely have copies of the AP Style Book. And what wrong info do you speak of? For someone who CLAIMS to not see the paper on the North Side, you sure can pontificate about what we are supposedly not doing right in the paper.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t make stuff up on such boards. If you have a specific complaint, bring it to my attention. By the way, before I got hre, whe</p>
<p>Sounds to me like a chronic complainer, rather than someone who actually cares about the paper.</p>
<p>By the way, before I got here, when they screwed up, there was no correction. There is now a clear policy now. If you see a mistake, don&#8217;t sit there and gripe. Pick up the phone. But it sounds to be like you wrong info nonsense isn&#8217;t rooted in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: julia</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/oprah-fails-the-loyalty-test/comment-page-1#comment-1337</link>
		<dc:creator>julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok first of all  I think it&#039;s a bit silly.  But people are silly and get weird and this is an intense time.  Most simply it&#039;s probably about ego and hurt feelings and all the complex messes that get into this kind of situation.



And there are tendencies among some in the AA community to turn everything into politics in one way or another.    But you don&#039;t hekp this by dwelling on it but just treating it as the bs most of us know  it can be.



The family wanted respect, they felt they didn&#039;t get it, they might have had a point and if they go too far just shine it on or laugh at it .   I guess this sounds a lot like Limpbowel just going on and on and on about the stupidist things liberals say.   There is no context or understanding that he comes off as a big fat hot air head himself.    These peple think oprah snubbed them any maybe some of  thik we should have a big sit down demonstration in front of her TV show, which is just downright funny.   Because it&#039;s just like some guy thinking he&#039;s the most important person in the world or some women thinking she&#039;s the most beautiful.



And actually  before someone jumps on me I&#039;m not sure if people are actually taking this attitude because I didn&#039;t read the linked article.  If they are then shine it on or laiugh.  Lighten things.  If they aren&#039;t then making this accusation is doing the old political game in reverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok first of all  I think it&#8217;s a bit silly.  But people are silly and get weird and this is an intense time.  Most simply it&#8217;s probably about ego and hurt feelings and all the complex messes that get into this kind of situation.</p>
<p>And there are tendencies among some in the AA community to turn everything into politics in one way or another.    But you don&#8217;t hekp this by dwelling on it but just treating it as the bs most of us know  it can be.</p>
<p>The family wanted respect, they felt they didn&#8217;t get it, they might have had a point and if they go too far just shine it on or laugh at it .   I guess this sounds a lot like Limpbowel just going on and on and on about the stupidist things liberals say.   There is no context or understanding that he comes off as a big fat hot air head himself.    These peple think oprah snubbed them any maybe some of  thik we should have a big sit down demonstration in front of her TV show, which is just downright funny.   Because it&#8217;s just like some guy thinking he&#8217;s the most important person in the world or some women thinking she&#8217;s the most beautiful.</p>
<p>And actually  before someone jumps on me I&#8217;m not sure if people are actually taking this attitude because I didn&#8217;t read the linked article.  If they are then shine it on or laiugh.  Lighten things.  If they aren&#8217;t then making this accusation is doing the old political game in reverse.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s amazing to me about Roland Martin&#039;s criticism is his paper&#039;s continuing policy to not acknowlege or distribute his newpapers to the black population of Chicago that lives on the north side and in thenorthern suburbs. If you are unwilling to go, or cannot get to a paper stand on 35th and MLK Drive, well, screw you.  This paper has been existance for a century; allegedly Mr. Martin is some sort of new technocrat running things, and his paper&#039;s still full of mispelled words, wrong info, &quot;old school&quot; journalism concepts (ain&#039;t got a AP Stylebook anywhere near their 26th &amp; Michigan headquarters). Oh and back to that distribution thing: The Sengstacke advocated that instead of opening up their distribution lines-including having a website prior to 2005-it would be far more &quot;progressive&quot; if the black population &quot;moved back into black neighborhoods&quot;, then we could get the Defender more readily. Over two million black folks in the Chicago metro area. They&#039;ve got a daily readership of maybe 20,000. Mr. Martin needs to worry about himself and let Oprah worry about herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s amazing to me about Roland Martin&#8217;s criticism is his paper&#8217;s continuing policy to not acknowlege or distribute his newpapers to the black population of Chicago that lives on the north side and in thenorthern suburbs. If you are unwilling to go, or cannot get to a paper stand on 35th and MLK Drive, well, screw you.  This paper has been existance for a century; allegedly Mr. Martin is some sort of new technocrat running things, and his paper&#8217;s still full of mispelled words, wrong info, &#8220;old school&#8221; journalism concepts (ain&#8217;t got a AP Stylebook anywhere near their 26th &amp; Michigan headquarters). Oh and back to that distribution thing: The Sengstacke advocated that instead of opening up their distribution lines-including having a website prior to 2005-it would be far more &#8220;progressive&#8221; if the black population &#8220;moved back into black neighborhoods&#8221;, then we could get the Defender more readily. Over two million black folks in the Chicago metro area. They&#8217;ve got a daily readership of maybe 20,000. Mr. Martin needs to worry about himself and let Oprah worry about herself.</p>
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		<title>By: VB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all Oprah is human ok? I know that she is a very visible person, in the limelight, public personality etc.  But she is still a human being.  The fact that she did not attend Mr. Johnson&#039;s funeral should ony concern the Johnson family  and Oprah.  Mr. Johnson has gone on to his &quot;reward&quot; and he CERTAINLY does not care who was there and who was not.  So what&#039;s the big deal! It never cease to concern me how we  (us) can tear each other down so easily. Mind you I am not an avid fan of Oprah but I do respect the good that she has done, that does not mean she is perfect, just that she is doing a lot of good with what God has blessed her with. (Can&#039;t say that for everybody, bur we won&#039;t go there).  I wish that people would just leave that issue between the Johnson&#039;s and Oprah, &#039;cause it really  AIN&#039;T

NOBODY&#039;S BUSINESS BUT THEIRS!   By the way what&#039;s that newspaper&#039;s motive behind printing that stuff, is it to solve the issue or just to make more money at the expense of tarninshing someone&#039;s character.  Don&#039;t think Mr. Johnson would smile on that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Oprah is human ok? I know that she is a very visible person, in the limelight, public personality etc.  But she is still a human being.  The fact that she did not attend Mr. Johnson&#8217;s funeral should ony concern the Johnson family  and Oprah.  Mr. Johnson has gone on to his &#8220;reward&#8221; and he CERTAINLY does not care who was there and who was not.  So what&#8217;s the big deal! It never cease to concern me how we  (us) can tear each other down so easily. Mind you I am not an avid fan of Oprah but I do respect the good that she has done, that does not mean she is perfect, just that she is doing a lot of good with what God has blessed her with. (Can&#8217;t say that for everybody, bur we won&#8217;t go there).  I wish that people would just leave that issue between the Johnson&#8217;s and Oprah, &#8217;cause it really  AIN&#8217;T</p>
<p>NOBODY&#8217;S BUSINESS BUT THEIRS!   By the way what&#8217;s that newspaper&#8217;s motive behind printing that stuff, is it to solve the issue or just to make more money at the expense of tarninshing someone&#8217;s character.  Don&#8217;t think Mr. Johnson would smile on that!</p>
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		<title>By: maurice</title>
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		<dc:creator>maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s  see  what Mr. Johnson&#039;s company and Oprah&#039;s company do for the poor blacks in La. and Miss., and not who shows up for  what is traditionally a fashion show. To paraphrase Mr. Johnson while he was alive,  how many of the people complaining about Oprah, have a subscription to either  her magazine, or one of Mr. Johnson&#039;s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s  see  what Mr. Johnson&#8217;s company and Oprah&#8217;s company do for the poor blacks in La. and Miss., and not who shows up for  what is traditionally a fashion show. To paraphrase Mr. Johnson while he was alive,  how many of the people complaining about Oprah, have a subscription to either  her magazine, or one of Mr. Johnson&#8217;s?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/oprah-fails-the-loyalty-test/comment-page-1#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  People have WAY too much time on their hands. So, Oprah&#039;s philantrophic generosity pales in the face of her failure to attend a funeral?  Roland Martin is NOT the official spokesperson for Black America.  Contrary to popular belief, there is no official spokesperson.  We Black folk -- hard as it may be to believe -- are completely capable of deciding for ourselves who&#039;s &quot;a good race wo/man&quot; and who&#039;s not.  And believe it or not, some of us don&#039;t even go around taking up space in our brain thinking about such tripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  People have WAY too much time on their hands. So, Oprah&#8217;s philantrophic generosity pales in the face of her failure to attend a funeral?  Roland Martin is NOT the official spokesperson for Black America.  Contrary to popular belief, there is no official spokesperson.  We Black folk &#8212; hard as it may be to believe &#8212; are completely capable of deciding for ourselves who&#8217;s &#8220;a good race wo/man&#8221; and who&#8217;s not.  And believe it or not, some of us don&#8217;t even go around taking up space in our brain thinking about such tripe.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is a loyalty issue. Oprah,to my knowledge, has always paid tribute to those who paved the way for her.  I&#039;m sure she is trying to figure out right now who &quot;dropped the ball&quot; concerning sending the flowers and  card timely and efficiently. Their are lots of &quot;miscommunication &quot; issues around this incident. And miscommunication doesn&#039;t sound like the Oprah we read about. She  has a penchant for details.  Just prior to the death of Mr. Johnson, Oprah threw a big bash for several black women who influenced her life. So I think she does want to show her &quot;loyalty&quot; to others who contributed to her growth and development. Obviously , something went awry. But what mystifies me more is Mr. Johnson and Oprah never met. I find that fascinating given they were both in Chicago in related industries. I&#039;ll be looking forward to her special, and how she addresses that issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is a loyalty issue. Oprah,to my knowledge, has always paid tribute to those who paved the way for her.  I&#8217;m sure she is trying to figure out right now who &#8220;dropped the ball&#8221; concerning sending the flowers and  card timely and efficiently. Their are lots of &#8220;miscommunication &#8221; issues around this incident. And miscommunication doesn&#8217;t sound like the Oprah we read about. She  has a penchant for details.  Just prior to the death of Mr. Johnson, Oprah threw a big bash for several black women who influenced her life. So I think she does want to show her &#8220;loyalty&#8221; to others who contributed to her growth and development. Obviously , something went awry. But what mystifies me more is Mr. Johnson and Oprah never met. I find that fascinating given they were both in Chicago in related industries. I&#8217;ll be looking forward to her special, and how she addresses that issue.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>martin is back tracking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>martin is back tracking.</p>
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		<title>By: EversB</title>
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		<dc:creator>EversB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not being loyal that&#039;s at issue, it&#039;s paying tribute. When I lost my father, you better believe I took note of which of my friends and family came, and those who didn&#039;t bother. And when you&#039;re talking about a man as important as John H. Johnson - someone who gave so much to so many - it seems more likely that people will keep score. Even if Oprah owes him nothing personally, it&#039;s a perception thing.



Face it: Oprah&#039;s made some really bad PR decisions this summer. First she makes a scene because an exclusive jeweler wouldn&#039;t let her come in after-hours to buy a $20,000 watch for Tina Turner (we&#039;ve all been there, I know). Then, she won&#039;t fly back from Hawaii to pay tribute, in public, to a man that did more for Black media than she ever did or will.



She may be a great TV personality, but Oprah runs the risk of looking insensitive and clueless when she acts like a diva. She can throw all the fits she likes. But one thing is now clear: Oprah ain&#039;t no woman of the people. She&#039;s just a rich, pampered snob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not being loyal that&#8217;s at issue, it&#8217;s paying tribute. When I lost my father, you better believe I took note of which of my friends and family came, and those who didn&#8217;t bother. And when you&#8217;re talking about a man as important as John H. Johnson &#8211; someone who gave so much to so many &#8211; it seems more likely that people will keep score. Even if Oprah owes him nothing personally, it&#8217;s a perception thing.</p>
<p>Face it: Oprah&#8217;s made some really bad PR decisions this summer. First she makes a scene because an exclusive jeweler wouldn&#8217;t let her come in after-hours to buy a $20,000 watch for Tina Turner (we&#8217;ve all been there, I know). Then, she won&#8217;t fly back from Hawaii to pay tribute, in public, to a man that did more for Black media than she ever did or will.</p>
<p>She may be a great TV personality, but Oprah runs the risk of looking insensitive and clueless when she acts like a diva. She can throw all the fits she likes. But one thing is now clear: Oprah ain&#8217;t no woman of the people. She&#8217;s just a rich, pampered snob.</p>
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		<title>By: Lighnin'</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lighnin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Duane on this. Out of all the injustices going on in the world --the Defender choses to take a cheap shot at Oprah. Sheez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Duane on this. Out of all the injustices going on in the world &#8211;the Defender choses to take a cheap shot at Oprah. Sheez.</p>
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		<title>By: VB</title>
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		<dc:creator>VB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch!</description>
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