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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/once-again-our-politics-supersedes-racial-pride/comment-page-1#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a black parent with children (both a son and a daughter) in the same age group as both the girl and the boys, I am OUTRAGED by what I am reading.



My question is:  Where were the parents of the boys?



I know that my parents raised me to respect and cherish females and especially Black females.



  My &#039;butt&#039; (putting it nicely) would regret any insult I would think of throwing towards any woman.



In today&#039;s society, the general disrespect towards  women and especially Black women is at a all time high. With the media&#039;s portraying (sp) women as &#039;b#$%h&#039;s and ho&#039;s&#039; at every turn, and Black women in general as an &quot;easy&quot; lay, without parental influence, children will take what they see/hear on the &quot;moron&quot; devices (TV/RADIO) as gospel.



 Black parents and parents in general need to be there to talk to their kids and dispel the myths that they are seeing.



This is not BY ANY MEANS an excuse for their behavior.  I just think that it is a wake up call to other parents out there, that they need to get involved in their kids life and restore some sensible values to our generation or else we will be lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a black parent with children (both a son and a daughter) in the same age group as both the girl and the boys, I am OUTRAGED by what I am reading.</p>
<p>My question is:  Where were the parents of the boys?</p>
<p>I know that my parents raised me to respect and cherish females and especially Black females.</p>
<p>  My &#8216;butt&#8217; (putting it nicely) would regret any insult I would think of throwing towards any woman.</p>
<p>In today&#8217;s society, the general disrespect towards  women and especially Black women is at a all time high. With the media&#8217;s portraying (sp) women as &#8216;b#$%h&#8217;s and ho&#8217;s&#8217; at every turn, and Black women in general as an &#8220;easy&#8221; lay, without parental influence, children will take what they see/hear on the &#8220;moron&#8221; devices (TV/RADIO) as gospel.</p>
<p> Black parents and parents in general need to be there to talk to their kids and dispel the myths that they are seeing.</p>
<p>This is not BY ANY MEANS an excuse for their behavior.  I just think that it is a wake up call to other parents out there, that they need to get involved in their kids life and restore some sensible values to our generation or else we will be lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find it hard to believe those who knew about this story are not outraged. Black people in general to me are not as heartless as being portrayed here especially when it comes to a child being physically abused by other children.&lt;/i&gt;



My dear Cynthia,



Nobody is saying here that black people are not outraged about this incident.This is why I kept putting MEDIA in caps so that the focus remained on black MEDIA. It would be silly to suggest that blacks are heartless when it comes to issues like this. What ain&#039;t silly is how BLACK MEDIA has  treated this case. So once again, I am talking about BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA.  (I&#039;m just being silly here, but it is just I had to explain this several times already to some readers)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I find it hard to believe those who knew about this story are not outraged. Black people in general to me are not as heartless as being portrayed here especially when it comes to a child being physically abused by other children.</i></p>
<p>My dear Cynthia,</p>
<p>Nobody is saying here that black people are not outraged about this incident.This is why I kept putting MEDIA in caps so that the focus remained on black MEDIA. It would be silly to suggest that blacks are heartless when it comes to issues like this. What ain&#8217;t silly is how BLACK MEDIA has  treated this case. So once again, I am talking about BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA, BLACK MEDIA.  (I&#8217;m just being silly here, but it is just I had to explain this several times already to some readers)</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first time I heard the story.  It has been my experience that the media always protect white people identity and not blacks, so IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not sure why the identify of the person wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t disclosed unless it was automatically understood that this is an all black school.   The thing I find totally disturbing is that other students sat back and watched while this girl was raped.  The other part of the story about black people not being outraged by black on black crime is a bit absurd.  I find it hard to believe those who knew about this story are not outraged.  Black people in general to me are not as heartless as being portrayed here especially when it comes to a child being physically abused by other children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first time I heard the story.  It has been my experience that the media always protect white people identity and not blacks, so IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m not sure why the identify of the person wasnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t disclosed unless it was automatically understood that this is an all black school.   The thing I find totally disturbing is that other students sat back and watched while this girl was raped.  The other part of the story about black people not being outraged by black on black crime is a bit absurd.  I find it hard to believe those who knew about this story are not outraged.  Black people in general to me are not as heartless as being portrayed here especially when it comes to a child being physically abused by other children.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies!! Thanks for suggesting the re-read. Your point is clear and well taken,

your comment was no insulting at all. (that whole think/read before you speak just came into play...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies!! Thanks for suggesting the re-read. Your point is clear and well taken,</p>
<p>your comment was no insulting at all. (that whole think/read before you speak just came into play&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shelley,



All parties were black. To understand the post, please take your time to read it again.



If I sound insulting here, please forgive me. Most readers found the point pretty clear.

Bottom line, color does not matter. Unfortunately to some, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shelley,</p>
<p>All parties were black. To understand the post, please take your time to read it again.</p>
<p>If I sound insulting here, please forgive me. Most readers found the point pretty clear.</p>
<p>Bottom line, color does not matter. Unfortunately to some, it does.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 20:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I missed something, but this discussion is making no sense. What race are the boys involved? What race is the female involved?  Im gathering that the boys were black? and the female white? What Im confused on is what does the race have to do with anything anways? Iam outraged regardless of the races involved, it should make no difference.



A young girl was brutally raped by 3 boys!  Lets talk about this issue as a whole, and work on a solution ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I missed something, but this discussion is making no sense. What race are the boys involved? What race is the female involved?  Im gathering that the boys were black? and the female white? What Im confused on is what does the race have to do with anything anways? Iam outraged regardless of the races involved, it should make no difference.</p>
<p>A young girl was brutally raped by 3 boys!  Lets talk about this issue as a whole, and work on a solution ,</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I said NATIONAL outrage (like you quoted me). I am not that crazy to make the blanket statement that there is NO outrage amongst blacks.&lt;/em&gt;



I&#039;m in Maryland. It has been on Black media originating from Baltimore.



What gets picked up and doesn&#039;t get picked up is always a mystery to me.



There have been &quot;white on Black&quot; cases in Maryland that have been bad but have not made the national press. I really don&#039;t expect it to, but I find the claim, &quot;If it where white on Black&quot; to be suspect because of what I have seen and NOT seen over time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I said NATIONAL outrage (like you quoted me). I am not that crazy to make the blanket statement that there is NO outrage amongst blacks.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m in Maryland. It has been on Black media originating from Baltimore.</p>
<p>What gets picked up and doesn&#8217;t get picked up is always a mystery to me.</p>
<p>There have been &#8220;white on Black&#8221; cases in Maryland that have been bad but have not made the national press. I really don&#8217;t expect it to, but I find the claim, &#8220;If it where white on Black&#8221; to be suspect because of what I have seen and NOT seen over time.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The fact that the race of the participants was not mentioned has more to do with the media then with the Ã¢â‚¬Å“black communityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s lack of outrage&quot;. Ã¢â‚¬Å“We,Ã¢â‚¬Â because when it comes to things like this we are a collective group, can only know what the media shows us.&lt;/i&gt;



Your point is very valid, however, this goes back to a point that I raised sometime ago: Why has most of major black media given this story little or no play? If you go to blackpressusa.com (a website that ties in most black owned and operated newspapers), the main headline reads the following:



&lt;b&gt;Anti-war and community activist Damu Smith&lt;/b&gt;



I have no comment on Smith as I am not that familiar with him, but question remains, why does an anti-war activist get headlined while a girl being gang-raped (a story that typically gets national attention) is on the back pages somewhere. If we are admiting here that black news gets its relevancy from MSM, then why do we have it if stories like this get overlooked? Anybody can filter a newsfeed to only target keywords like burning cross, racism, oppression, white cop, black kid, etc..Is this all we are interested in?



Personally, the race of the individuals is no where near important than the crime itself. If I had a child in a mostly white school and the same thing happened, trust me I would feel the same way. What angers me is that US... OUR MEDIA, most black polititians who have the national spotlight would have raised pure hell about this is if it was white teens that raped this black girl. Calls for a federal probe would have already been issued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The fact that the race of the participants was not mentioned has more to do with the media then with the Ã¢â‚¬Å“black communityÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s lack of outrage&#8221;. Ã¢â‚¬Å“We,Ã¢â‚¬Â because when it comes to things like this we are a collective group, can only know what the media shows us.</i></p>
<p>Your point is very valid, however, this goes back to a point that I raised sometime ago: Why has most of major black media given this story little or no play? If you go to blackpressusa.com (a website that ties in most black owned and operated newspapers), the main headline reads the following:</p>
<p><b>Anti-war and community activist Damu Smith</b></p>
<p>I have no comment on Smith as I am not that familiar with him, but question remains, why does an anti-war activist get headlined while a girl being gang-raped (a story that typically gets national attention) is on the back pages somewhere. If we are admiting here that black news gets its relevancy from MSM, then why do we have it if stories like this get overlooked? Anybody can filter a newsfeed to only target keywords like burning cross, racism, oppression, white cop, black kid, etc..Is this all we are interested in?</p>
<p>Personally, the race of the individuals is no where near important than the crime itself. If I had a child in a mostly white school and the same thing happened, trust me I would feel the same way. What angers me is that US&#8230; OUR MEDIA, most black polititians who have the national spotlight would have raised pure hell about this is if it was white teens that raped this black girl. Calls for a federal probe would have already been issued.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,



I have a friend that lives in the area as well.



I said NATIONAL outrage (like you quoted me). I am not that crazy to make the blanket statement that there is NO outrage amongst blacks. Compare the Twanda Brawley case from back in the day with this one.



Again, looking at this from a NATIONAL perspective, I do not recall too many black-owned media giving this attention either. Sure MSM does share some of the blame on this one for not giving this story more play, but so does our own media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>I have a friend that lives in the area as well.</p>
<p>I said NATIONAL outrage (like you quoted me). I am not that crazy to make the blanket statement that there is NO outrage amongst blacks. Compare the Twanda Brawley case from back in the day with this one.</p>
<p>Again, looking at this from a NATIONAL perspective, I do not recall too many black-owned media giving this attention either. Sure MSM does share some of the blame on this one for not giving this story more play, but so does our own media.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The lack of national outrage amongst most blacks&lt;/em&gt;



OK, now I&#039;ve asked someone I know who lives in the area about this story, and I&#039;m told there is outrage from Black people that this happened.



You have to look at how the media is reporting things or not reporting things.



For example, in a local case, a woman encouraged her daughter and other girls to beat up another girl. The girl who was beat up suffered brain damage. The white talk show stations said the same thing you did, that there is no outrage in the Black community.



Meanwhile, on the Black talk stations, outrage was being shown. Neighbors got involved as well as the church the brain damaged girl attended.



The church raised a lot of money for her health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The lack of national outrage amongst most blacks</em></p>
<p>OK, now I&#8217;ve asked someone I know who lives in the area about this story, and I&#8217;m told there is outrage from Black people that this happened.</p>
<p>You have to look at how the media is reporting things or not reporting things.</p>
<p>For example, in a local case, a woman encouraged her daughter and other girls to beat up another girl. The girl who was beat up suffered brain damage. The white talk show stations said the same thing you did, that there is no outrage in the Black community.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, on the Black talk stations, outrage was being shown. Neighbors got involved as well as the church the brain damaged girl attended.</p>
<p>The church raised a lot of money for her health care.</p>
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		<title>By: EG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 17:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were providing legal counsel to the teachers&#039; union, would you allow your client to speak on this matter?  Despite the emotional aspects of this issue, the legal issues for any party involved in this case would be very deep.



For example, have these administrators been reprimanded earlier for other issues?  Have other parents complained about the school&#039;s lack of discipline?  The teachers&#039; union may have been involved in these issues with these administrators.  And may be called as a witness by the father.



The same problem exists for the Supertindent of the school system, other teachers in the school, School Board members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were providing legal counsel to the teachers&#8217; union, would you allow your client to speak on this matter?  Despite the emotional aspects of this issue, the legal issues for any party involved in this case would be very deep.</p>
<p>For example, have these administrators been reprimanded earlier for other issues?  Have other parents complained about the school&#8217;s lack of discipline?  The teachers&#8217; union may have been involved in these issues with these administrators.  And may be called as a witness by the father.</p>
<p>The same problem exists for the Supertindent of the school system, other teachers in the school, School Board members.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Ambition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Ambition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 15:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that the race of the participants was not mentioned has more to do with the media then with the &quot;black community&#039;s lack of outrage&quot;. &quot;We,&quot; because when it comes to things like this we are a collective group, can only know what the media shows us. But why is the race of the children important here? Unless this was a racially motivated incident, I am not sure why the race of the participants is relevant. A similar incident occurred with a group of white teenagers and a mentally disabled student years ago. The race of the participants were not reported. They were white and it wasnt racially motivated. (the young lady was white as well). I suppose you are saying that the fact that the boys were black should be brought to the attention of black america so that we can have a discussion about it and actually do something about this behavior? And if so, whose fault is it for not knowing the children were black?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that the race of the participants was not mentioned has more to do with the media then with the &#8220;black community&#8217;s lack of outrage&#8221;. &#8220;We,&#8221; because when it comes to things like this we are a collective group, can only know what the media shows us. But why is the race of the children important here? Unless this was a racially motivated incident, I am not sure why the race of the participants is relevant. A similar incident occurred with a group of white teenagers and a mentally disabled student years ago. The race of the participants were not reported. They were white and it wasnt racially motivated. (the young lady was white as well). I suppose you are saying that the fact that the boys were black should be brought to the attention of black america so that we can have a discussion about it and actually do something about this behavior? And if so, whose fault is it for not knowing the children were black?</p>
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		<title>By: EG</title>
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		<dc:creator>EG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2005 11:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how the teacher&#039;s union plays into the story but it may be involved in the legal aspects of the case and cannot make any public statement at this time.  Obviously, no one condones this type of behavior and would agree the school administrators deserve at least to be fired (... how is it these hoodlums think they can do this on school property and get away with it?).



I&#039;m sure the child&#039;s father now has at the ready a list of attorneys for a lawsuit against the school system and perpetrators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how the teacher&#8217;s union plays into the story but it may be involved in the legal aspects of the case and cannot make any public statement at this time.  Obviously, no one condones this type of behavior and would agree the school administrators deserve at least to be fired (&#8230; how is it these hoodlums think they can do this on school property and get away with it?).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the child&#8217;s father now has at the ready a list of attorneys for a lawsuit against the school system and perpetrators.</p>
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