That’s not support. That’s simply agreeing to disagree.

Trust me on this. I have seen it. I’ve even read articles in feminist magazines on whether a lesbian who decides she likes men after all is really still a lesbian. At least in one case the author decided these women *are* still lesbians, because it’s more about the attitude and the political stance than the attraction. Say again???

I’ve also met “bisexual” women who claim to be attracted to both sexes but in practice, get hooked up with men and spend all their spare time mooning after women–known lesbians, mind you–who they will never actually get up the courage to ask out on a date. It got me wondering whether they really liked women or just said they did because it turned their men on.

Even transgendered are not off the hook. I’ve heard of women who became “men” because they couldn’t stand other women (look up Ariel Gore on this one, she’s written about it), and that “man” who gave birth a while back (2008?) seems to have “changed gender” so that “he” could marry “his” girlfriend. I’m not 100 percent sure on that one, I only saw it mentioned on one or two websites, but I wouldn’t put it past that group. They will tell you with a straight face that hormones and body parts don’t make the gender BUT they’re damn sure going to change their gender anyway, with hormones for sure and with surgery if they can ever afford it. I don’t get it, I gave up asking because even asking them about this stuff gets you labeled intolerant. It takes less effort to be labeled intolerant for just not giving a damn.

Now I think that in a nation of 300 million from such diverse backgrounds and cultures, our government needs to be secular because that is the neutral position. As such I think there should be a way for gay people who are bound and determined they’re gonna be gay, to form legal partnerships and the like. (I do not believe gay people should be allowed to adopt, though I wouldn’t split up families already formed that way, because I think the way adoption in this country is done is a violation of human rights, so I don’t care what orientation you are, you’ve got no business doing it.) But that doesn’t mean I think it’s wrong for private citizens to have opinions about LGBT people even if those opinions aren’t popular.

And you know something, I’m not a Christian but I’m getting kind of nauseated by all these “inclusive” types who think a religion doesn’t have to stand for anything or mean anything and that if you have rules that say “do this” and “don’t do that,” it makes you evil and intolerant. Every traditional human culture since time began has had rules about what is OK and not OK. Now we are supposed to force people to associate who would not do so naturally, and to throw out any rules that might make anyone upset even if there are very good reasons for having them. It’s ridiculous.

Even if God never forbade homosexual behavior and never wanted to kill gay people (and good luck with that–I can flip through the Old Testament and find several examples where He in fact did both), one problem with the LGBT community is that they make it very difficult to know where you stand if you want to seek a relationship with someone that goes beyond superficial discussion of the weather. I will readily concede feminism does the same thing, although I consider myself a feminist and always will. Somehow the baby got thrown out with the bathwater and I’m not sure how to get it back.

There is such a twisted standard to your “tolerance” and “openness”.
It isn’t tolerant or open by any means. There is an agenda, and if it has anything to do with anything that contains the words of “ex gay”, Jesus, Bible, or Christianity, it is completely not tolerated.

Make up your minds people! Are you accepting and tolerant or judgmental and intolerant? If you are, than be accepting and tolerant to ALL! Whether a person decides to stay gay or not, what does it matter? What a person decides to believe, and their relationship with God is none of YOUR business!

Your stance of being pro-gay, and anti-Christ shouts intolerant and close minded to me! It is just the opposite!

Leave it to you to boil everything about love and romance down to sex. You really need to educate yourself by talking to some gay men. Who happen to be black (or the same race as you).

Peace, Light and Love. . . CordieB.

None of the passages of scriptures you mention say nothing about a sexual relationship.

None of them.

The example Christ sets is one of unconditional love and compassion. God’s laws are against behaviors that harm other people; His laws are not pedantic customs and cultures because Jesus offers a new covenant that makes faith its only condition. You do not have to have a watered-down faith to be both a Christian and gay, and it’s because I don’t believe any commandment or example says that being gay is a sin, and I’ve scoured and searched for that distinction. Being gay does not hurt people. The condemnation of gay people hurts people, especially because it attempts to keep them away from God.

Does he speak back? And if so, what does he say?
The Bible is a good start on what he has already said.

I reject much of “the gay life” that is publicized. It’s garish and offensive. But there are many of us who live quietly and love fully. My partner and I have been together now for 22 years.

I’ve accepted Jesus as my savior. So has my partner. And to those who say that can’t be true if you don’t obey the writings of the bible, let me tell you MY take on this. The bible you refer to as your “be all and end all” was written by men CLAIMING they were writing the word of God. They were sort of like Congress passing a huge stimulus package, without letting anyone read it before maaking it law. I’m sure they felt in their hearts that they were writing “the word of God” and, of course, it was from a heterosexual’s perspective.

A good and merciful God will look no less kindly on me because of my acknowledging the way He made me. But those of YOU who would judge me will, in turn, be judged. To those of you who can live your lives accepting me for who I am, I’ll see you in Heaven. For those of you (both gay and straight) who can’t accept another person for the content of their character rather than the color of their skin or sexual orientation, I’m sorry and sad to be the hearer of bad news, but I think you will be judged more harshly than me.

God bless ALL of you WITHOUT EXCEPTION. Those of you who cannot do the same miss the message of Jesus completely and have no right to be preaching values to others. Yet I will pray even harder for your fotgiveness.

Garrison

To all, those people here, that have chosen to heap verbal abuse upon Charlene for speaking about her experiences. From, all I’ve have seen. She’s, done it out of love and not hate. A, true Christian will love the sinner but hate the sin. So, is it right? If, Charlene offers something to you out of love. To return that love with hateful words? Of course not. It’s wrong, even from a non-religious perspective. This is still a free country where you have the choice to read her articles or not. And, in the same respect Charlene has exercised her right to free speech & choice to live her life the way that she wants to, within accepted norms. If, you choose to comment. Say, what you want. But, keep it respectful! She did.

I, wish you all the best in the future Charlene. May, God bless you!

Bob

Have we not learned anything from history when such an ideology was embraced?