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	<title>Comments on: Had &#8220;Tookie&#8221; been a Klansman&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/had-tookie-been-a-klansman/comment-page-1#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tookies situation has nothing to do with black or white, it is a matter of right and wrong.  What would you think if it would of been your child that was murdered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tookies situation has nothing to do with black or white, it is a matter of right and wrong.  What would you think if it would of been your child that was murdered?</p>
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		<title>By: Blackhacker &#187; My one and only Tookie Post</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/had-tookie-been-a-klansman/comment-page-1#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackhacker &#187; My one and only Tookie Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 22:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] et/articles/2005/12/09/my-one-and-only-tookie-post/trackback/			 			  			 				This post on Blackinformant  got me thinking. It asks the question what if Tookie had been a  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] et/articles/2005/12/09/my-one-and-only-tookie-post/trackback/			 			  			 				This post on Blackinformant  got me thinking. It asks the question what if Tookie had been a  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/had-tookie-been-a-klansman/comment-page-1#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i can weigh in, I believe the central theme of the post was the terrorizing and muder of law abiding Blacks. I think it is irrelevant as to what is the color/ethnic group of the party doing the killing.



The Black community, for some reason, as to find white Republican counterparts to base their arguments. Pat Robertson maybe a whack job Republican, but as to date, he has not killed anybody, nor created a gang that killed other people and destroyed an entire community. He is a political commentator who filters his commentary through the Bible. The only difference between he and Jesse is the fact he is white and comes from the right.



Tookie Williams, and others of his ilk, contribute to the degradation of the community that we attribute to racism. All Blacks in this country came from poverty somewhere along the way of the past 400+ years, and all have had to deal with racism. Murder, meyham, and terror from other Blacks has only recently gotten a pass over the past 30+ years. If you systematically kill and foster the propensity to do so through gang activity, you deserve to fry. Tookie Williams started a plague that has ravaged the Black community, like no other plague, not even slavery and Jim Crow could. He should meet the fate that has been designated by his actions. Period!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i can weigh in, I believe the central theme of the post was the terrorizing and muder of law abiding Blacks. I think it is irrelevant as to what is the color/ethnic group of the party doing the killing.</p>
<p>The Black community, for some reason, as to find white Republican counterparts to base their arguments. Pat Robertson maybe a whack job Republican, but as to date, he has not killed anybody, nor created a gang that killed other people and destroyed an entire community. He is a political commentator who filters his commentary through the Bible. The only difference between he and Jesse is the fact he is white and comes from the right.</p>
<p>Tookie Williams, and others of his ilk, contribute to the degradation of the community that we attribute to racism. All Blacks in this country came from poverty somewhere along the way of the past 400+ years, and all have had to deal with racism. Murder, meyham, and terror from other Blacks has only recently gotten a pass over the past 30+ years. If you systematically kill and foster the propensity to do so through gang activity, you deserve to fry. Tookie Williams started a plague that has ravaged the Black community, like no other plague, not even slavery and Jim Crow could. He should meet the fate that has been designated by his actions. Period!!</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/had-tookie-been-a-klansman/comment-page-1#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good night, john!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good night, john!</p>
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		<title>By: John Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 07:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The key word in my question is RECENTLY&quot;



You were replying to Cynthia&#039;s statement, and nowhere in there did she note that someone had been pardoned &quot;recently.&quot;



You *badly* misinterpreted what she wrote.



John L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The key word in my question is RECENTLY&#8221;</p>
<p>You were replying to Cynthia&#8217;s statement, and nowhere in there did she note that someone had been pardoned &#8220;recently.&#8221;</p>
<p>You *badly* misinterpreted what she wrote.</p>
<p>John L.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What she means...&lt;/i&gt;



You should stop right there before you get yourself into trouble.



The key word in my question is &lt;b&gt;RECENTLY&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What she means&#8230;</i></p>
<p>You should stop right there before you get yourself into trouble.</p>
<p>The key word in my question is <b>RECENTLY</b></p>
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		<title>By: John Lindsay</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane wrote: &quot;What former klansman has been pardoned recently?&quot;



What she means by &quot;pardoned orginally,&quot; is that an all-white jury would have acquitted the klansman of the murder...and then when he is about to die...a federal agency would come along and attempt to prosecute him.



How many whites have been charged with murder, only to be let go by a sympatheic all-white jury?!



That&#039;s one of the reasons why white people should never, ever open their mouths about the OJ trial.



Hundreds and hundreds of cases, and the guilty party walked free.

John L.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane wrote: &#8220;What former klansman has been pardoned recently?&#8221;</p>
<p>What she means by &#8220;pardoned orginally,&#8221; is that an all-white jury would have acquitted the klansman of the murder&#8230;and then when he is about to die&#8230;a federal agency would come along and attempt to prosecute him.</p>
<p>How many whites have been charged with murder, only to be let go by a sympatheic all-white jury?!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the reasons why white people should never, ever open their mouths about the OJ trial.</p>
<p>Hundreds and hundreds of cases, and the guilty party walked free.</p>
<p>John L.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What  former klansman has been pardoned recently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What  former klansman has been pardoned recently?</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right there are too many double standards in America. Now, if Tookie was a Klansman like you suggested, he would have been pardon originally and then they would have waited until he was on death&#039;s door before he would have been prosecuted just like everybody else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right there are too many double standards in America. Now, if Tookie was a Klansman like you suggested, he would have been pardon originally and then they would have waited until he was on death&#8217;s door before he would have been prosecuted just like everybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point  and personally I would still maintain that if a person does the crime, they should still pay REGARDLESS.



Pat Robertson does not represent all Conservatives any more than Ted Kennedy represents the viewpoints of all Liberals. In the post I acknowledged the fact that it is a mixed bag of folks that do agree with the point that Williams should meet his maker (or whoever) on 12/13. The reason why I am calling out Liberals (in particularly white Liberals) on this one is because of the simple fact that have made it clear over and over again their stance on this issue. I do not see a variety of opinions coming from that particular group  And its their stance on this particular issue that is doing more harm than good when it comes to our young boys who put themselves at risk to follow in William&#039;s footsteps. Why? Because the undertone of William&#039;s message is &quot;I was wrong, but use ANY means to get out of paying for that wrong--even if it means writing some children&#039;s books.&quot; Trust me, like I said regarding your example, I am the same way when it comes to Conservatives when they shovel crap from that same pile (Remember Terri Schiavo? Although I agreed like other Conservatives that she should live, I didn&#039;t like how many Conservatives turned it into a partisanship show. That aggression was much needed elsewhere and they dropped the ball--and yes I called them on it. Same goes for Tom Delay). Someone may become a straight up Christian, but if they have been found guilty of murder, then they are at the mercy of the court. Activism needs to stay out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point  and personally I would still maintain that if a person does the crime, they should still pay REGARDLESS.</p>
<p>Pat Robertson does not represent all Conservatives any more than Ted Kennedy represents the viewpoints of all Liberals. In the post I acknowledged the fact that it is a mixed bag of folks that do agree with the point that Williams should meet his maker (or whoever) on 12/13. The reason why I am calling out Liberals (in particularly white Liberals) on this one is because of the simple fact that have made it clear over and over again their stance on this issue. I do not see a variety of opinions coming from that particular group  And its their stance on this particular issue that is doing more harm than good when it comes to our young boys who put themselves at risk to follow in William&#8217;s footsteps. Why? Because the undertone of William&#8217;s message is &#8220;I was wrong, but use ANY means to get out of paying for that wrong&#8211;even if it means writing some children&#8217;s books.&#8221; Trust me, like I said regarding your example, I am the same way when it comes to Conservatives when they shovel crap from that same pile (Remember Terri Schiavo? Although I agreed like other Conservatives that she should live, I didn&#8217;t like how many Conservatives turned it into a partisanship show. That aggression was much needed elsewhere and they dropped the ball&#8211;and yes I called them on it. Same goes for Tom Delay). Someone may become a straight up Christian, but if they have been found guilty of murder, then they are at the mercy of the court. Activism needs to stay out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: DarkStar</title>
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		<dc:creator>DarkStar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what about when Pat Robertson and other white evangelists were leading the charge for a born again woman to be spared the death penalty because she had beeen born again?



The inconsistancy of outrage really bothers me.



The silliness of making it &quot;liberal&quot; vs. &quot;conservative&quot; is really pathetic, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what about when Pat Robertson and other white evangelists were leading the charge for a born again woman to be spared the death penalty because she had beeen born again?</p>
<p>The inconsistancy of outrage really bothers me.</p>
<p>The silliness of making it &#8220;liberal&#8221; vs. &#8220;conservative&#8221; is really pathetic, IMO.</p>
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