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		<title>By: D. Scales</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/deborah-mathis-and-her-gun-control-beef/comment-page-1#comment-534</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Scales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah broÃ¢â‚¬Â¦



The only point you substantiated was that you are a &lt;b&gt;Lemming&lt;/b&gt; for the Neo-Con Extremists.   I am sure the sleaze bag Tom Delay was smiling at you and giving you the Ã¢â‚¬Å“thumbs-up NegroÃ¢â‚¬Â sign at that NRA club meeting last week.



I bet he was thinking that some of us &lt;b&gt;poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolk&lt;/b&gt; believe loading the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœhood with guns will make the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœhood safer.  No doubt he had his Klan robes while he was &lt;b&gt;cogitating&lt;/b&gt; it.



Black Neo-ConÃ¢â‚¬Â¦  What a trip!!!!</description>
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<p>The only point you substantiated was that you are a <b>Lemming</b> for the Neo-Con Extremists.   I am sure the sleaze bag Tom Delay was smiling at you and giving you the Ã¢â‚¬Å“thumbs-up NegroÃ¢â‚¬Â sign at that NRA club meeting last week.</p>
<p>I bet he was thinking that some of us <b>poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolk</b> believe loading the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœhood with guns will make the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœhood safer.  No doubt he had his Klan robes while he was <b>cogitating</b> it.</p>
<p>Black Neo-ConÃ¢â‚¬Â¦  What a trip!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew!



I rest my case. Thanks for proving my point!</description>
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		<title>By: D. Scales</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Scales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is why I do not respond to most comments like yours. It is like debating a wall.

For starters, Negroes that commit crimes involving guns do not go to their local Wal-Mart to purchase them!&lt;/i&gt;



I guess you did not comprehend what I wrote.  I said access to gun both Ã¢â‚¬Å“illegally and not.Ã¢â‚¬Â  The point being there is flood of guns that is uncontrollable in both areas.   Let me ask you this; are the guns you call illegal, once legal?   They belonged to someone legally at one point; therefore, control of the gun was lost.   Consequently, gun makers and distributors have a direct affect on gun circulation in the community and America in general.



Note to Duane: these guns werenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t manufactured by Ã¢â‚¬Å“Negroes.Ã¢â‚¬Â



&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;As a result, in those countries, there are LOW violent crime rates with guns (in some cases, almost non-existent). Therefore, your Gun Control equal Socialist state is a misnomer. You need to read a little be more on the subject.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;



&lt;i&gt;Maybe it is because they have stiffer penalties than the US if you commit a crime with a gun AND they do not have a group like the ACLU bailing them out in the name of injustice.&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;b&gt;Do more reading Bruh!!!&lt;/b&gt;



Those other countries do not rear gun worshipers like this one does.   Also, America has STIFFER gun usage penalties than a number of those countries.   Simply, those countries (specifically, the societies) believe the access to guns is a Privilege and not a Right.



Now you are taking shots at the ACLU (a typical Neo-Con move).   I will not go into an ACLU defense argument but I will support any organization that goes into action when they strongly believe someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Civil Rights have been violated.   I will hedge my bets on innocence, rather than guilt until proven otherwise (isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the in the Bill of Rights somewhere).  Bush and Company (including Neo-Cons) doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t exactly follow that doctrine.



&lt;i&gt;I see how you avoided addressing the basic point that back in the day black folks not only carried guns, but knew how to handle them. Why should law accomedate our current bad behavior in this area?&lt;/i&gt;



&lt;b&gt;Back is what day:&lt;/b&gt; the 1800Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s, the old west.   When I grew up in the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ60Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s and Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ70Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s, the want for guns was non-existent. Plus, the glamorization of guns was not as prevalent.  When gang violence of the 70Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s and Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ80Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s came to fore-front, Gun Control organization came into existence to help limit access for those reasons.   But organizations like the NRA fought against because the industryÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s gun makers, distributors and resellers (the NRA supports) knew it would affect their bottom-line economically. Therefore, economic decisions drove death and destruction.



Also, to answer your question, this is not about a simple question of Ã¢â‚¬Å“bad behaviorÃ¢â‚¬Â, it is about survival.   Access to guns (even more guns), legal or otherwise, does not make you, your family and American in general that much safer.   The murder rate in America proves that.  This situation is a mindset, no more, no less.   The lack of gun control breeds crime and violence.   It is indicative of a society that has is sense of community and right &amp; wrong mixed up.



Do this; think logically, do more guns purports you are safer or do fewer guns mean you are less safe?   Logic dictates that a less armed society is allot safer than a community armed to the Ã¢â‚¬Å“teethÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ Japan and the other countries that IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve mentioned before proved that point.  The previous point is contrary to the illogic of being well armed making the Country safer Ã¢â‚¬â€œ think USA, the whole of the Middle East (civil wars or not).



&lt;i&gt;Second, the fact that you consistently call for more government hand-holding because we poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolks canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t control ourselves with those mean guns show demonstrates how your ideology resembles that of a communist nation.&lt;/i&gt;



That whole statement was obtuse on multiple levels -- the main level being the implication is crazy.  Access to guns at Gun Shows has more ramifications to it than just (using your vernacular) Ã¢â‚¬Å“poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolksÃ¢â‚¬Â controlling themselves.  It has to do with creating loopholes in the system where access to guns can be gained by Terrorist.  Basically, because of the lack of control and oversight, anyone can secure access to weapons without the normal checks and inspections.  Illegal guns can enter the community is the same fashion. The following article discusses it in some detail;



http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2001-12-13-nceditf.htm



The NRA fights for issues that are so ludicrous with anti-social relevance, it make them seem extremely out of touch. But folks like you are so indoctrinated that you accept their philosophy without critically thinking it through.



Also, how is my position Communistic?  Do you even understand what the concept connotes?  Communism is just a Ã¢â‚¬Å“buzzÃ¢â‚¬Â word for or to you.  Calling you a Bush Backing Extremist has more relevance.   Neo-Cons, like you, will scream and holler about their rights being taken away when Gun Control is discussed but when Civil Liberties are threatened, not a word from you.   ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hypocritical.



&lt;i&gt;Please tell me how your view of protecting oneself is different than that of what communism preaches (let the state handle it). And please stick to the point. I see how you also completely avoided the point I raised about what to do if a predator was in your house.&lt;/i&gt;



I did not try to avoid anything.  When tied to post my entire response all at once to your blog, it would not accept it.  That is why you see my response in section and I left out some portions of the message in doing so.



First, what you are saying is illogical.  The state, as you call it, (i.e. police) is a community mandated and funded organization that was/is designed to project its citizenry from harm.  How is that Communistic?  Civil protection is a tenet of a civilized society.  Second, Gun Control mandates wants to control the unconstrained and/or unimpeded proliferation of gun needlessly into the community.   It has nothing to do with self protection.  You are trying to equate the both of them but it is not working.  Also, under the banner of self protection, from referenced material, Ã¢â‚¬Å“every gun owner needs to know that a gun in the home is &lt;b&gt;22&lt;/b&gt; times more likely to be used to kill a family member or friend than to kill in self-defense.Ã¢â‚¬Â  Subsequently, how is that protection?



&lt;i&gt;I guess you would be one of those that would watch the creep do his thing while you call the policeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦oh, the police are racist too (I forgot about that one). If you have kids, God have mercy on them!!&lt;/i&gt;



ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a sick analogy but I will pray for you bruh.  You are the archetypal lost soul (Black Neo-Con) that believes anything and everything the NRA and other extremist tells you. One day, hopefully, you will wake up from your self induced siesta/slumber and face reality.  &lt;b&gt;The world is round and it spins on it axis. What&#039;s more, guns kill people; people only point them.&lt;/b&gt;



Also, donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t you worry about my kids, my familyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s kids, my neighborhood kids and so on; just worry about the folks you want to keep well armed.  They make America and my family less safe everyday.

By the way, why no comment about my Second Amendment response?  Hmmm.. Maybe you were just dead wrong about it.   &lt;b&gt;Yeah, thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s it.&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is why I do not respond to most comments like yours. It is like debating a wall.</p>
<p>For starters, Negroes that commit crimes involving guns do not go to their local Wal-Mart to purchase them!</i></p>
<p>I guess you did not comprehend what I wrote.  I said access to gun both Ã¢â‚¬Å“illegally and not.Ã¢â‚¬Â  The point being there is flood of guns that is uncontrollable in both areas.   Let me ask you this; are the guns you call illegal, once legal?   They belonged to someone legally at one point; therefore, control of the gun was lost.   Consequently, gun makers and distributors have a direct affect on gun circulation in the community and America in general.</p>
<p>Note to Duane: these guns werenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t manufactured by Ã¢â‚¬Å“Negroes.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p><b><i>As a result, in those countries, there are LOW violent crime rates with guns (in some cases, almost non-existent). Therefore, your Gun Control equal Socialist state is a misnomer. You need to read a little be more on the subject.</i></b></p>
<p><i>Maybe it is because they have stiffer penalties than the US if you commit a crime with a gun AND they do not have a group like the ACLU bailing them out in the name of injustice.</i></p>
<p><b>Do more reading Bruh!!!</b></p>
<p>Those other countries do not rear gun worshipers like this one does.   Also, America has STIFFER gun usage penalties than a number of those countries.   Simply, those countries (specifically, the societies) believe the access to guns is a Privilege and not a Right.</p>
<p>Now you are taking shots at the ACLU (a typical Neo-Con move).   I will not go into an ACLU defense argument but I will support any organization that goes into action when they strongly believe someoneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Civil Rights have been violated.   I will hedge my bets on innocence, rather than guilt until proven otherwise (isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t the in the Bill of Rights somewhere).  Bush and Company (including Neo-Cons) doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t exactly follow that doctrine.</p>
<p><i>I see how you avoided addressing the basic point that back in the day black folks not only carried guns, but knew how to handle them. Why should law accomedate our current bad behavior in this area?</i></p>
<p><b>Back is what day:</b> the 1800Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s, the old west.   When I grew up in the Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ60Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s and Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ70Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s, the want for guns was non-existent. Plus, the glamorization of guns was not as prevalent.  When gang violence of the 70Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s and Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ80Ã¢â‚¬â„¢s came to fore-front, Gun Control organization came into existence to help limit access for those reasons.   But organizations like the NRA fought against because the industryÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s gun makers, distributors and resellers (the NRA supports) knew it would affect their bottom-line economically. Therefore, economic decisions drove death and destruction.</p>
<p>Also, to answer your question, this is not about a simple question of Ã¢â‚¬Å“bad behaviorÃ¢â‚¬Â, it is about survival.   Access to guns (even more guns), legal or otherwise, does not make you, your family and American in general that much safer.   The murder rate in America proves that.  This situation is a mindset, no more, no less.   The lack of gun control breeds crime and violence.   It is indicative of a society that has is sense of community and right &#038; wrong mixed up.</p>
<p>Do this; think logically, do more guns purports you are safer or do fewer guns mean you are less safe?   Logic dictates that a less armed society is allot safer than a community armed to the Ã¢â‚¬Å“teethÃ¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ Japan and the other countries that IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ve mentioned before proved that point.  The previous point is contrary to the illogic of being well armed making the Country safer Ã¢â‚¬â€œ think USA, the whole of the Middle East (civil wars or not).</p>
<p><i>Second, the fact that you consistently call for more government hand-holding because we poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolks canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t control ourselves with those mean guns show demonstrates how your ideology resembles that of a communist nation.</i></p>
<p>That whole statement was obtuse on multiple levels &#8212; the main level being the implication is crazy.  Access to guns at Gun Shows has more ramifications to it than just (using your vernacular) Ã¢â‚¬Å“poÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ blackfolksÃ¢â‚¬Â controlling themselves.  It has to do with creating loopholes in the system where access to guns can be gained by Terrorist.  Basically, because of the lack of control and oversight, anyone can secure access to weapons without the normal checks and inspections.  Illegal guns can enter the community is the same fashion. The following article discusses it in some detail;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2001-12-13-nceditf.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2001-12-13-nceditf.htm</a></p>
<p>The NRA fights for issues that are so ludicrous with anti-social relevance, it make them seem extremely out of touch. But folks like you are so indoctrinated that you accept their philosophy without critically thinking it through.</p>
<p>Also, how is my position Communistic?  Do you even understand what the concept connotes?  Communism is just a Ã¢â‚¬Å“buzzÃ¢â‚¬Â word for or to you.  Calling you a Bush Backing Extremist has more relevance.   Neo-Cons, like you, will scream and holler about their rights being taken away when Gun Control is discussed but when Civil Liberties are threatened, not a word from you.   ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s hypocritical.</p>
<p><i>Please tell me how your view of protecting oneself is different than that of what communism preaches (let the state handle it). And please stick to the point. I see how you also completely avoided the point I raised about what to do if a predator was in your house.</i></p>
<p>I did not try to avoid anything.  When tied to post my entire response all at once to your blog, it would not accept it.  That is why you see my response in section and I left out some portions of the message in doing so.</p>
<p>First, what you are saying is illogical.  The state, as you call it, (i.e. police) is a community mandated and funded organization that was/is designed to project its citizenry from harm.  How is that Communistic?  Civil protection is a tenet of a civilized society.  Second, Gun Control mandates wants to control the unconstrained and/or unimpeded proliferation of gun needlessly into the community.   It has nothing to do with self protection.  You are trying to equate the both of them but it is not working.  Also, under the banner of self protection, from referenced material, Ã¢â‚¬Å“every gun owner needs to know that a gun in the home is <b>22</b> times more likely to be used to kill a family member or friend than to kill in self-defense.Ã¢â‚¬Â  Subsequently, how is that protection?</p>
<p><i>I guess you would be one of those that would watch the creep do his thing while you call the policeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦oh, the police are racist too (I forgot about that one). If you have kids, God have mercy on them!!</i></p>
<p>ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a sick analogy but I will pray for you bruh.  You are the archetypal lost soul (Black Neo-Con) that believes anything and everything the NRA and other extremist tells you. One day, hopefully, you will wake up from your self induced siesta/slumber and face reality.  <b>The world is round and it spins on it axis. What&#8217;s more, guns kill people; people only point them.</b></p>
<p>Also, donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t you worry about my kids, my familyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s kids, my neighborhood kids and so on; just worry about the folks you want to keep well armed.  They make America and my family less safe everyday.</p>
<p>By the way, why no comment about my Second Amendment response?  Hmmm.. Maybe you were just dead wrong about it.   <b>Yeah, thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s it.</b><b></b></p>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2005 18:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scales,



This is why I do not respond to most comments like yours. It is like debating a wall.



For starters, Negroes that commit crimes involving guns do not go to their local Wal-Mart to purchase them!



&lt;i&gt;As a result, in those countries, there are LOW violent crime rates with guns (in some cases, almost non-existent). Therefore, your Gun Control equal Socialist state is a misnomer. You need to read a little be more on the subject. &lt;/i&gt;



Maybe it is because they have stiffer penalties than the US  if you commit a crime with a gun AND they do not have a group like the ACLU bailing them out in the name of injustice.





I see how you avoided addressing the basic point that back in the day black folks not only carried guns, but knew how to handle them.  Why should law accomedate our current bad behavior in this area?



Second, the fact that you consistently call for more government hand-holding because we po&#039; blackfolks can&#039;t control ourselves with those mean guns show demonstrates how your ideology resembles that of a communist nation.



Please tell me how your view of protecting oneself is different than that of what communism preaches (let the state handle it). And please stick to the point. I see how you also completely avoided the point I raised about what to do if a predator was in your house.



I guess you would be one of those that would watch the creep do his thing while you call the police...oh, the police are racist too (I forgot about that one). If you have kids, God have mercy on them!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scales,</p>
<p>This is why I do not respond to most comments like yours. It is like debating a wall.</p>
<p>For starters, Negroes that commit crimes involving guns do not go to their local Wal-Mart to purchase them!</p>
<p><i>As a result, in those countries, there are LOW violent crime rates with guns (in some cases, almost non-existent). Therefore, your Gun Control equal Socialist state is a misnomer. You need to read a little be more on the subject. </i></p>
<p>Maybe it is because they have stiffer penalties than the US  if you commit a crime with a gun AND they do not have a group like the ACLU bailing them out in the name of injustice.</p>
<p>I see how you avoided addressing the basic point that back in the day black folks not only carried guns, but knew how to handle them.  Why should law accomedate our current bad behavior in this area?</p>
<p>Second, the fact that you consistently call for more government hand-holding because we po&#8217; blackfolks can&#8217;t control ourselves with those mean guns show demonstrates how your ideology resembles that of a communist nation.</p>
<p>Please tell me how your view of protecting oneself is different than that of what communism preaches (let the state handle it). And please stick to the point. I see how you also completely avoided the point I raised about what to do if a predator was in your house.</p>
<p>I guess you would be one of those that would watch the creep do his thing while you call the police&#8230;oh, the police are racist too (I forgot about that one). If you have kids, God have mercy on them!!</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty1st Blog: Red meat for a blue state.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty1st Blog: Red meat for a blue state.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 03:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mark La Roi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark La Roi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2005 01:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid post!</description>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to gun control, your position is similar to mines.</description>
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