Comments on: Dealing with the language barrier in public schools http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools Engaging the culture by challenging the status quo Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:24:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Saudia http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-10485 Saudia Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:30:28 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-10485 I believe that people must attempt to assimilate if they want to participate. I believe that people must attempt to assimilate if they want to participate.

]]> By: Learn Polish http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-10483 Learn Polish Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:45:27 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-10483 Hi! You see a problem with the language barrier. But the problem wouldn't exist if teachers taught in a natural way. In schools around the world children and adults learn in a way which discourages them. They have to analyse grammar, remember long vocabulary lists and study boring topics. You should know that people who are taught with natural methods can learn languages even 7x faster. I know that it is possible because I teach languages and always use natural approach. What do you think about it? Hi! You see a problem with the language barrier. But the problem wouldn’t exist if teachers taught in a natural way. In schools around the world children and adults learn in a way which discourages them. They have to analyse grammar, remember long vocabulary lists and study boring topics. You should know that people who are taught with natural methods can learn languages even 7x faster. I know that it is possible because I teach languages and always use natural approach. What do you think about it?

]]> By: andrea http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-3685 andrea Sat, 07 Apr 2007 18:37:20 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-3685 Well then how about dual language! Testing shows that students (English and Spanish speaking) in dual language programs not only outperform students in ESL but also do better than their English speaking counterparts enrolled in traditional programs. This way Spanish speaking students are not left in the dust and English speaking students get a competitive edge for tomorrow's job market!! Well then how about dual language! Testing shows that students (English and Spanish speaking) in dual language programs not only outperform students in ESL but also do better than their English speaking counterparts enrolled in traditional programs. This way Spanish speaking students are not left in the dust and English speaking students get a competitive edge for tomorrow’s job market!!

]]> By: Saudia http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-3684 Saudia Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:10:12 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-3684 NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF CITIZENS. So my child should suffer and the leveling of learning should slowed down to give you time to catch up. How about these parents take some responisiblity and place there children in night classes or at local community centers that are willing to teach them the language. It is all a bunch of bull and that is why my child is home schooled. NOT AT THE EXPENCE OF CITIZENS. So my child should suffer and the leveling of learning should slowed down to give you time to catch up. How about these parents take some responisiblity and place there children in night classes or at local community centers that are willing to teach them the language. It is all a bunch of bull and that is why my child is home schooled.

]]> By: MIB http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-3683 MIB Thu, 11 Jan 2007 00:52:32 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-3683 <i>"So why is that if you want to go to a country to live that there shouldn’t be an expectation that you learn the language?"</i> Who doesn't share that expectation? The children in question <b>are</b> attending school to be taught English. I think this problem is larger than the bellyachers are willing to admit. Many of these students -- admittedly illegal immigrants -- are illiterate in their native language. For instance, I speak Spanish moderately well (after 6-7 years of formal schooling), but have difficulty communicating with speakers of certain Spanish dialects, esp. those of Central America. Hence, it takes that much more of an investment in time, effort and money to establish the proper reference points with these students in order that they learn English effectively. Of course, there are proponents of immersion, too. My complaint with immersion is that it's not an effective method of educating students en masse to a single standard (although individuals left to their own devices often manage to dope out enough to get by). It's my belief that a methodology not too far removed from immersion and rote memorization is used to teach most American students English, and the multitude of dialects make high achievement problematic, e.g.; most Americans have relatively meager language skills ( “So why is that if you want to go to a country to live that there shouldn’t be an expectation that you learn the language?”

Who doesn’t share that expectation? The children in question are attending school to be taught English.

I think this problem is larger than the bellyachers are willing to admit. Many of these students — admittedly illegal immigrants — are illiterate in their native language. For instance, I speak Spanish moderately well (after 6-7 years of formal schooling), but have difficulty communicating with speakers of certain Spanish dialects, esp. those of Central America. Hence, it takes that much more of an investment in time, effort and money to establish the proper reference points with these students in order that they learn English effectively.

Of course, there are proponents of immersion, too. My complaint with immersion is that it’s not an effective method of educating students en masse to a single standard (although individuals left to their own devices often manage to dope out enough to get by). It’s my belief that a methodology not too far removed from immersion and rote memorization is used to teach most American students English, and the multitude of dialects make high achievement problematic, e.g.; most Americans have relatively meager language skills (

]]> By: Saudia http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/comment-page-1#comment-3682 Saudia Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:58:06 +0000 http://blackinformant.com/2007/01/10/dealing-with-the-language-barrier-in-public-schools/#comment-3682 This sis such an outrage. Before I went to visit Italy I began learning the language. Granted I was not fluent but I was able to get from point a to point b with minimal confusion. So why is that if you want to go to a country to live that there shouldn't be an expectation that you learn the language. Not change cultures, not forget who you are but learn the language of the land that you are in. This sis such an outrage. Before I went to visit Italy I began learning the language. Granted I was not fluent but I was able to get from point a to point b with minimal confusion. So why is that if you want to go to a country to live that there shouldn’t be an expectation that you learn the language. Not change cultures, not forget who you are but learn the language of the land that you are in.

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