Comments on: Amanda responds. So do I. http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess Engaging the culture by challenging the status quo Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Duane http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9591 Duane Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:30:09 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9591 Still waiting for you to show me the inaccuracies in what I wrote. I'm sure you'll get around to it. Still waiting for you to show me the inaccuracies in what I wrote. I’m sure you’ll get around to it.

]]> By: Damon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9590 Damon Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:10:39 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9590 Give me a break Duane. Its insulting. Amanda's comment is your argument in a simple sentence. What you wrote makes me uncomfortable because its the general black/hispanic consensus on HIV/AIDS, and has been for the last three decades, and its an opinion that has consequences. I'm afraid of the day when my female cousins begin dropping like flies. Ones already lost against this disease. And no, she wasn't a lesbian. Give me a break Duane. Its insulting. Amanda’s comment is your argument in a simple sentence.

What you wrote makes me uncomfortable because its the general black/hispanic consensus on HIV/AIDS, and has been for the last three decades, and its an opinion that has consequences. I’m afraid of the day when my female cousins begin dropping like flies. Ones already lost against this disease. And no, she wasn’t a lesbian.

]]> By: Duane http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9589 Duane Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:32:49 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9589 Damon, I called "foul" when Amanda made the following comment <b>"If D.C. residents think—like Black Informant does—that AIDS is a disease for homosexuals and sexual deviants..."</b> Like I did w/Amanda, I challenge you to find ANY PLACE on this site where I made this assessment. She couldn't and you will not as well. It's funny yet sad to watch how people like yourself will only hone in on what you want to hear. Throughout my whole exchange w/Amanda, I made it very clear that HIV/AIDS affected ANYBODY that engages in risky sexual behavior. The moment I pointed out homosexuals in this issue, you blocked out everything else I said and made your own sub-discussion based on assumptions (the irony here is that both you and Amanda are accusing me of the same thing but avoid proving it). If what I wrote makes you uncomfortable, that's one thing. Otherwise, point out exactly what I said was incorrect and we can go from there. Damon,

I called “foul” when Amanda made the following comment

“If D.C. residents think—like Black Informant does—that AIDS is a disease for homosexuals and sexual deviants…”

Like I did w/Amanda, I challenge you to find ANY PLACE on this site where I made this assessment. She couldn’t and you will not as well.

It’s funny yet sad to watch how people like yourself will only hone in on what you want to hear. Throughout my whole exchange w/Amanda, I made it very clear that HIV/AIDS affected ANYBODY that engages in risky sexual behavior. The moment I pointed out homosexuals in this issue, you blocked out everything else I said and made your own sub-discussion based on assumptions (the irony here is that both you and Amanda are accusing me of the same thing but avoid proving it).

If what I wrote makes you uncomfortable, that’s one thing. Otherwise, point out exactly what I said was incorrect and we can go from there.

]]> By: Damon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9588 Damon Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:51:13 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9588 You're "right". I was referring to the Africa post but I believe my March 18th, 11:26am comment still stands. There is still an HIV/AIDS problem in the black community in the United States that goes beyond homosexuality. Most of the homosexual men (we must keep in mind that hiv infections in lesbian relationships are very rare) make up new infections are black and hispanic. Obviously there is a racial aspect to the hiv epidemic. It wouldn't be erroneous to wonder whether religiousity and macho culture in the black and hispanic community has to do with their high hiv/aids rates. You’re “right”. I was referring to the Africa post but I believe my March 18th, 11:26am comment still stands. There is still an HIV/AIDS problem in the black community in the United States that goes beyond homosexuality. Most of the homosexual men (we must keep in mind that hiv infections in lesbian relationships are very rare) make up new infections are black and hispanic. Obviously there is a racial aspect to the hiv epidemic. It wouldn’t be erroneous to wonder whether religiousity and macho culture in the black and hispanic community has to do with their high hiv/aids rates.

]]> By: Richard Froggatt http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9546 Richard Froggatt Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:54:40 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9546 Damon, I'm afraid you're going to have to be a little more specific. Where did Duane cry fowl (or even foul)in the post. The closest that I can grant you your complaint is when he discussed HIV/AIDS in Africa, but even there his objection is/was legitimate based on his reasoning. There is the same problem (the epidemic) with two different driving factors. Damon, I’m afraid you’re going to have to be a little more specific. Where did Duane cry fowl (or even foul)in the post. The closest that I can grant you your complaint is when he discussed HIV/AIDS in Africa, but even there his objection is/was legitimate based on his reasoning. There is the same problem (the epidemic) with two different driving factors.

]]> By: Damon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9545 Damon Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:31:12 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9545 Froggatt I'm pretty sure it was under the post discussing HIV in the black community. Froggatt

I’m pretty sure it was under the post discussing HIV in the black community.

]]> By: Richard Froggatt http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9523 Richard Froggatt Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:51:41 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9523 Damon, when Duane cried fowl are you sure it wasn't under a post discussing a hunting trip? Damon, when Duane cried fowl are you sure it wasn’t under a post discussing a hunting trip?

]]> By: Damon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9518 Damon Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:37:18 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9518 http://www.blackaidsday.org/ Instead of hate and excuses and praying its time for understanding, action, and thinking. http://www.blackaidsday.org/

Instead of hate and excuses and praying its time for understanding, action, and thinking.

]]> By: Angela Warts http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9516 Angela Warts Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:43:06 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9516 You have to wonder if some people read or watch different news than the rest of the world...where do they come up with this stuff? You have to wonder if some people read or watch different news than the rest of the world…where do they come up with this stuff?

]]> By: Damon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9515 Damon Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:26:31 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9515 Oh boy. What a headache. He's happy to rave about AIDS in the gay community but cries fowl when organizations acknowledge the AIDS epidemic going on in the black community. When will black people learn? Will we learn after 1 out of 11 black women become infected with HIV like how we learned after realizing that 1 out of 11 black men are locked up in prison? Nope. We'll just blame the white man, white american, the gays, and the devil. Blacks still contract most other STIs than other races but Duane has no posts for that either. Black men who have sex with men make up the largest percentage of those contracting HIV. And who could blame them for making such thoughtless choices when blacks are so horribly homophobic and sexist and hateful towards any male who deviates from the hyper-masculine black standard? Homophobia still kills. And AIDS will remain the number 1 killer of black women 25-34 and number 2 for black men 25-44. Silence still = death. I'm so tired of hearing excuses and nastiness from these people. Oh boy. What a headache.

He’s happy to rave about AIDS in the gay community but cries fowl when organizations acknowledge the AIDS epidemic going on in the black community. When will black people learn? Will we learn after 1 out of 11 black women become infected with HIV like how we learned after realizing that 1 out of 11 black men are locked up in prison? Nope. We’ll just blame the white man, white american, the gays, and the devil. Blacks still contract most other STIs than other races but Duane has no posts for that either. Black men who have sex with men make up the largest percentage of those contracting HIV. And who could blame them for making such thoughtless choices when blacks are so horribly homophobic and sexist and hateful towards any male who deviates from the hyper-masculine black standard? Homophobia still kills. And AIDS will remain the number 1 killer of black women 25-34 and number 2 for black men 25-44. Silence still = death.

I’m so tired of hearing excuses and nastiness from these people.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9505 Amanda Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:26:20 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9505 He means "relegated themselves" He means “relegated themselves”

]]> By: Duane http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9499 Duane Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:37:00 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9499 Z, Great points. Simon, Thanks for the English lessons and pointing that out in my other post. As for your first question, If a person is an adult and of sound mind, they know exactly how to avoid contracting STDs. If a person is grown enough to know what to do in the bedroom, they are grown enough to make the right choices while in the bedroom. As for your second question, how about you making the attempt to figure out what I said. If you are wrong, I will be more than happy to correct you. Z,

Great points.

Simon,

Thanks for the English lessons and pointing that out in my other post. As for your first question, If a person is an adult and of sound mind, they know exactly how to avoid contracting STDs. If a person is grown enough to know what to do in the bedroom, they are grown enough to make the right choices while in the bedroom. As for your second question, how about you making the attempt to figure out what I said. If you are wrong, I will be more than happy to correct you.

]]> By: Simon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9497 Simon Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:28:52 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9497 English lessons continued: "My contention with the homosexual community is that for the most part, they have regulated themselves to the type of sexual behavior..." You use this term 'regulated themselves' several times. What the hell does that mean? It makes no sense. Seriously, what does it mean? English lessons continued:
“My contention with the homosexual community is that for the most part, they have regulated themselves to the type of sexual behavior…”
You use this term ‘regulated themselves’ several times. What the hell does that mean? It makes no sense.
Seriously, what does it mean?

]]> By: Simon http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9496 Simon Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:25:43 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9496 “HIV/AIDS is everybody’s problem.” For those of us in society who not only understand the importance of practicing safe sex, but actually abide by those guidelines, HIV/AIDS is not a problem. It is only a problem for those who live by the rule “If it feels good, do it”, all the WHILE EXPECTING SOCIETY AT LARGE TO FOOT THE BILL FOR THEIR BAD CHOICES. In 2 sentences you manage to disprove your own point. You mock sex education saying 'blanket them with more education'and then say "For those of us in society who not only understand the importance of practicing safe sex, but actually abide by those guidelines..." how do people understand this without education?? Also, "Anybody who believes more government is the answer has never fully experienced jury duty while conscience." Conscience? Seriously? Maybe this blog would be easier to read if your grammar and command of English were up to speed. “HIV/AIDS is everybody’s problem.”

For those of us in society who not only understand the importance of practicing safe sex, but actually abide by those guidelines, HIV/AIDS is not a problem. It is only a problem for those who live by the rule “If it feels good, do it”, all the WHILE EXPECTING SOCIETY AT LARGE TO FOOT THE BILL FOR THEIR BAD CHOICES.
In 2 sentences you manage to disprove your own point.
You mock sex education saying ‘blanket them with more education’and then say “For those of us in society who not only understand the importance of practicing safe sex, but actually abide by those guidelines…” how do people understand this without education??
Also, “Anybody who believes more government is the answer has never fully experienced jury duty while conscience.”
Conscience? Seriously? Maybe this blog would be easier to read if your grammar and command of English were up to speed.

]]> By: Z http://www.blackinformant.com/commentary/my-response-to-amanda-hess/comment-page-1#comment-9494 Z Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:21:38 +0000 http://www.blackinformant.com/?p=7975#comment-9494 Great response. I'm not an expert on the subject but a few things I also noted in Amanda's commentary: 1. 3% are infected which represents a 22% increase = ~.5% increase for the population. That doesn't have near the shock value of 22% increase but statistics can be fun. 2. Amanda 'jumps' from heterosexual contact becoming a leading cause to it being 'the' cause for the 22% increase. Big difference. 3. After determining that the cause for the increase is heterosexual contact, Amanda then in the same post claims that the 22% increase is because of increased testing. If that contradictory conclusion is correct then the crisis hasn't gotten worse, it may actually be improving. Improving to the extent possible while already educated people choose to engage in risky behavior with known consequences as you rightly point out. Great response. I’m not an expert on the subject but a few things I also noted in Amanda’s commentary:
1. 3% are infected which represents a 22% increase = ~.5% increase for the population. That doesn’t have near the shock value of 22% increase but statistics can be fun.

2. Amanda ‘jumps’ from heterosexual contact becoming a leading cause to it being ‘the’ cause for the 22% increase. Big difference.

3. After determining that the cause for the increase is heterosexual contact, Amanda then in the same post claims that the 22% increase is because of increased testing. If that contradictory conclusion is correct then the crisis hasn’t gotten worse, it may actually be improving. Improving to the extent possible while already educated people choose to engage in risky behavior with known consequences as you rightly point out.

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