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	<title>Comments on: Tracking the Black elite</title>
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		<title>By: Talgoma1</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-23027</link>
		<dc:creator>Talgoma1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to the value of education, success and keeping it real at the same time , sounds like you&#039;re suggesting that in order for us be successful is not to be ourselves, rather join onto something else other than self and lose ourselves in the process.. Most Black people do not despise people that have had success . What they see is the lack of support in their community from the people who come out of their community from the educatedly successful. Face it ,they look up to the rappers because thats a face that they can identify with and is doing more in his or her community than the one who is the college graduate and is successful. Harsh, but reality</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to the value of education, success and keeping it real at the same time , sounds like you&#8217;re suggesting that in order for us be successful is not to be ourselves, rather join onto something else other than self and lose ourselves in the process.. Most Black people do not despise people that have had success . What they see is the lack of support in their community from the people who come out of their community from the educatedly successful. Face it ,they look up to the rappers because thats a face that they can identify with and is doing more in his or her community than the one who is the college graduate and is successful. Harsh, but reality</p>
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		<title>By: Myriam Espritt-Steptoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myriam Espritt-Steptoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it a rest , you exemplify the non elite black people , always having their hands out for something , instead of having a paycheck given to you by a white or black man why don&#039;t you aspire to own your own business , and also how about owning your own home instead of paying rent to a white or black man , you complain because you are not elite . 

Sidenote : Even Steadman&#039;s family frowned upon Oprah and her non elite family .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it a rest , you exemplify the non elite black people , always having their hands out for something , instead of having a paycheck given to you by a white or black man why don&#8217;t you aspire to own your own business , and also how about owning your own home instead of paying rent to a white or black man , you complain because you are not elite . </p>
<p>Sidenote : Even Steadman&#8217;s family frowned upon Oprah and her non elite family .</p>
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		<title>By: Myriam Espritt-Steptoe</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-17927</link>
		<dc:creator>Myriam Espritt-Steptoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 03:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Oprah is rich , she is not from a black elite family is she , I think there is mention of a great aunt orsomething who started a school in the early 20th century and yes her slave ancestors bought some land , whose family did not have property ? Tending a farm is hardly prestigious . Her mother was a housekeeper and her father a barber neither college educated and she comes from very poor family . Not Elite they need to go back like 3 , 4 , or 5 generations to see family history .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Oprah is rich , she is not from a black elite family is she , I think there is mention of a great aunt orsomething who started a school in the early 20th century and yes her slave ancestors bought some land , whose family did not have property ? Tending a farm is hardly prestigious . Her mother was a housekeeper and her father a barber neither college educated and she comes from very poor family . Not Elite they need to go back like 3 , 4 , or 5 generations to see family history .</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs.S</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-13033</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs.S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got the book, a little late however so far I love it... Duane you and Give it a rest have great points. Giggles honey spell check yourself...it actually made me giggle at you.

Okay this book is refreshing and bold so far. However it did make me think of their ignorance to the fact with all the money and education the elite seem to still have, they still seem to hold on to some of “masters” ways when in come to skin color of there own race. It&#039;s like the &quot;House Negro, Field Negro syndrome&quot;. These educated people still look at color like, I&#039;m lighter than you so I am better than you they consider themselves to be so separated from the rest of the world that they separate themselves within their own groups when it came to color and features.

This book however make you so proud to know that there are black people out there that have made it and continue to make it through Family, Education Love and friendships that hold true may it be fake or sincere, because I&#039;m sure in circles like this you can&#039;t help but have a healthy dose of competition. I want the best for my family in fact I wish I had and everyday group of hard working friends who has a strong education value people who travel and dine and just have great conversation with a place where my son can play with children who have parents with some sort of ambition and value…. Please do not get me wrong I know these people exists, unfortunately in the Bronx where I am from, I look out in the park and all I see is young kids who have kids profanity raining out of there mouth as their babies are draped with over sized clothing (name brand of course) and the touch of bling to finish it of. No this is not an exaggeration no this is everyday life of our minority kids. No I do not live in the projects I actually own a Co-op here, and we have single parents and people who were able to live in my community through special housing programs they leave the projects yet that mentality stick with them. We need mentors we are sinking in our own ignorance. The boys who hold up the walls has they stand in front of the deli’s contributing nothing or the kids who prefer to hang out in front of the teen center instead of actually going in to learn something. I agree with Bill Cosby.
Blame us the parents blame us the neighbors. Always remember it take the village to raise a child. My husband and I am average Joe’s with a great deal of pride of for life and our morals we have goals and we expect the same for our only son. We know it’s hard out there so we are mindful in everything we do and what ever is done is for the better of our family. We are from the Caribbean and we work hard for everything that we have accomplished and have yet to accomplish. We need more pride within ourselves as a community. We have all the wrong things that are priorities in our life. Like expensive cars and no home to safely part it. Expensive clothes and barley the income to get by. When is the black community really going to get it we can’t look at anyone else but ourselves? Sadly we can talk about this till we are blue but I truly believe nothing is going to change with some individuals

So lets learn something from the book you may not like the fact that there is a black club out there that they even have the nerve so shun Michele Obama Our First Lady...because they considered her a ghetto girl when they assumed they were coming to Oak Bluffs for vacation last summer. Do not emulate their sad taught on what they believe a black elite should be, instead emulate the way they continue to push education to our kids, if you can be a mentor. Try new things get out of that comfort zone work hard play hard reward you. No don&#039;t spend money on that car you cannot afford or the Gucci’s and the Coach bags or whatever bling you think is in. Instead check out a museum, if you have not had the chance safe the money on a trip where you can travel and learn something new. Volunteer in church or a local shelter. Do what you can to step out of your comfort zone in fact your zip code. These people have done it. Stop watching the tv and wishing or dreaming, we make stuff happen when we get up and jump into life. You do not need to have and Ivy League education or a six-figure salary to enjoy the world and get to know things and places. Start small see what’s new in your neighborhood. We have to help each other; sadly however there will always be the negatives that follow but you still keep pushing forward. I love the fact that we are talking agreeing and disagreeing I guess this is what Mr. Graham wanted. I’m not preaching this is stuff me and my hubby do with our 5yr old and it will hopefully be something he will not forget as he gets older and pushes they same morals with his kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the book, a little late however so far I love it&#8230; Duane you and Give it a rest have great points. Giggles honey spell check yourself&#8230;it actually made me giggle at you.</p>
<p>Okay this book is refreshing and bold so far. However it did make me think of their ignorance to the fact with all the money and education the elite seem to still have, they still seem to hold on to some of “masters” ways when in come to skin color of there own race. It&#8217;s like the &#8220;House Negro, Field Negro syndrome&#8221;. These educated people still look at color like, I&#8217;m lighter than you so I am better than you they consider themselves to be so separated from the rest of the world that they separate themselves within their own groups when it came to color and features.</p>
<p>This book however make you so proud to know that there are black people out there that have made it and continue to make it through Family, Education Love and friendships that hold true may it be fake or sincere, because I&#8217;m sure in circles like this you can&#8217;t help but have a healthy dose of competition. I want the best for my family in fact I wish I had and everyday group of hard working friends who has a strong education value people who travel and dine and just have great conversation with a place where my son can play with children who have parents with some sort of ambition and value…. Please do not get me wrong I know these people exists, unfortunately in the Bronx where I am from, I look out in the park and all I see is young kids who have kids profanity raining out of there mouth as their babies are draped with over sized clothing (name brand of course) and the touch of bling to finish it of. No this is not an exaggeration no this is everyday life of our minority kids. No I do not live in the projects I actually own a Co-op here, and we have single parents and people who were able to live in my community through special housing programs they leave the projects yet that mentality stick with them. We need mentors we are sinking in our own ignorance. The boys who hold up the walls has they stand in front of the deli’s contributing nothing or the kids who prefer to hang out in front of the teen center instead of actually going in to learn something. I agree with Bill Cosby.<br />
Blame us the parents blame us the neighbors. Always remember it take the village to raise a child. My husband and I am average Joe’s with a great deal of pride of for life and our morals we have goals and we expect the same for our only son. We know it’s hard out there so we are mindful in everything we do and what ever is done is for the better of our family. We are from the Caribbean and we work hard for everything that we have accomplished and have yet to accomplish. We need more pride within ourselves as a community. We have all the wrong things that are priorities in our life. Like expensive cars and no home to safely part it. Expensive clothes and barley the income to get by. When is the black community really going to get it we can’t look at anyone else but ourselves? Sadly we can talk about this till we are blue but I truly believe nothing is going to change with some individuals</p>
<p>So lets learn something from the book you may not like the fact that there is a black club out there that they even have the nerve so shun Michele Obama Our First Lady&#8230;because they considered her a ghetto girl when they assumed they were coming to Oak Bluffs for vacation last summer. Do not emulate their sad taught on what they believe a black elite should be, instead emulate the way they continue to push education to our kids, if you can be a mentor. Try new things get out of that comfort zone work hard play hard reward you. No don&#8217;t spend money on that car you cannot afford or the Gucci’s and the Coach bags or whatever bling you think is in. Instead check out a museum, if you have not had the chance safe the money on a trip where you can travel and learn something new. Volunteer in church or a local shelter. Do what you can to step out of your comfort zone in fact your zip code. These people have done it. Stop watching the tv and wishing or dreaming, we make stuff happen when we get up and jump into life. You do not need to have and Ivy League education or a six-figure salary to enjoy the world and get to know things and places. Start small see what’s new in your neighborhood. We have to help each other; sadly however there will always be the negatives that follow but you still keep pushing forward. I love the fact that we are talking agreeing and disagreeing I guess this is what Mr. Graham wanted. I’m not preaching this is stuff me and my hubby do with our 5yr old and it will hopefully be something he will not forget as he gets older and pushes they same morals with his kids.</p>
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		<title>By: charles henry hall.</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-12931</link>
		<dc:creator>charles henry hall.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need this book to be, publish quick fast and a hurry to, let children know that they there are other ways to become wealthy besides rapping, singing, playing, sports, acting or telling jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need this book to be, publish quick fast and a hurry to, let children know that they there are other ways to become wealthy besides rapping, singing, playing, sports, acting or telling jokes.</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Check</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-11961</link>
		<dc:creator>Reality Check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giggles....you have several mispelled words in your comment darling, one of which is &quot;speeling&quot; instead of &quot;spelling&quot;. You have the nerve to tell others to use spellcheck??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giggles&#8230;.you have several mispelled words in your comment darling, one of which is &#8220;speeling&#8221; instead of &#8220;spelling&#8221;. You have the nerve to tell others to use spellcheck??</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Within the white community, I&#039;m sure that Bill Clinton and John Edwards and Governor Sanford would be in some sort of Who&#039;s Who of America, not to mention &quot;white&quot; America, etc.  Yet they&#039;ve behaved repulsively and in the case of John Edwards has &quot;outside children&quot; as they used to call it.  I&#039;m wondering whether education or good behavior, if it&#039;s apparently no requirement for making Who&#039;s Who, should be an absolute requirement for any sort of &quot;black elite&quot; publication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Within the white community, I&#8217;m sure that Bill Clinton and John Edwards and Governor Sanford would be in some sort of Who&#8217;s Who of America, not to mention &#8220;white&#8221; America, etc.  Yet they&#8217;ve behaved repulsively and in the case of John Edwards has &#8220;outside children&#8221; as they used to call it.  I&#8217;m wondering whether education or good behavior, if it&#8217;s apparently no requirement for making Who&#8217;s Who, should be an absolute requirement for any sort of &#8220;black elite&#8221; publication.</p>
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		<title>By: Toussaint Beaupre</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-10976</link>
		<dc:creator>Toussaint Beaupre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book will join Graham&#039;s other works in my personal library. Black people should applaud success. It is admirable to aim for the top, especially when the bottom is as full as it is today. 

Black people, wake up. We have to start celebrating education, class and success just as much as these hood-rats celebrate (tyler-perry-type) foolishness.  

If you a despise people for being successful that probably has more to do with your own limitations. Yes for minorities the America is a tough race to run, but someone has to run, someone will win, it might as well be you, or your child. 

Teach your children to value success and education. Let the mediocrity worry about keeping it real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book will join Graham&#8217;s other works in my personal library. Black people should applaud success. It is admirable to aim for the top, especially when the bottom is as full as it is today. </p>
<p>Black people, wake up. We have to start celebrating education, class and success just as much as these hood-rats celebrate (tyler-perry-type) foolishness.  </p>
<p>If you a despise people for being successful that probably has more to do with your own limitations. Yes for minorities the America is a tough race to run, but someone has to run, someone will win, it might as well be you, or your child. </p>
<p>Teach your children to value success and education. Let the mediocrity worry about keeping it real.</p>
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		<title>By: MPA c/o 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPA c/o 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Entrepreneur, I absolutely agree with you, &quot;Education is important but understanding the movement of money, building black owned fortune 500 companies and controlling the economy is what they respect!&quot;  Your thoughts have greatly contributed to this conversation.
Anyway who is Lawrence Otis Graham???  Who made him the authortiy on Black Elitism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Entrepreneur, I absolutely agree with you, &#8220;Education is important but understanding the movement of money, building black owned fortune 500 companies and controlling the economy is what they respect!&#8221;  Your thoughts have greatly contributed to this conversation.<br />
Anyway who is Lawrence Otis Graham???  Who made him the authortiy on Black Elitism?</p>
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		<title>By: Kia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the concept of this book. I know that our youth should know there are other ways to becoming rich that dont have to involve a sport or a mic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the concept of this book. I know that our youth should know there are other ways to becoming rich that dont have to involve a sport or a mic.</p>
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		<title>By: entrepreneur</title>
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		<dc:creator>entrepreneur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Duane. If the black elite are not employers they should not be considered elite. They are just high paid negroes working for the white man. Most of their salaries do not compare to the athletes and self made new money millionaires and billionaires. Are they considered elite simply because they got a good education or is it their net worth. What gains more respect in a capitalistic society? This world functions off of commerce the buying and exchange of goods and services. The so called elite have no real influence or power in the black community as well as society at large. So who really cares about their silly organizations, debutantes and so on. At the end of the day what is your net worth and how do you contribute to the betterment of our race? Can you tell the government or city officials when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans you better get their and save our people before things get out of hand, Or we will pull out our resources and cause economic stress on the US economy? No, but the JEWISH COMMUNITY CAN. The Black Community has no respect because we are economically weak. We do not pool our resources together, employ our own, build wealth from one family to another. Education is important but understanding the movement of money, building black owned fortune 500 companies and controlling the economy is what they respect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Duane. If the black elite are not employers they should not be considered elite. They are just high paid negroes working for the white man. Most of their salaries do not compare to the athletes and self made new money millionaires and billionaires. Are they considered elite simply because they got a good education or is it their net worth. What gains more respect in a capitalistic society? This world functions off of commerce the buying and exchange of goods and services. The so called elite have no real influence or power in the black community as well as society at large. So who really cares about their silly organizations, debutantes and so on. At the end of the day what is your net worth and how do you contribute to the betterment of our race? Can you tell the government or city officials when hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans you better get their and save our people before things get out of hand, Or we will pull out our resources and cause economic stress on the US economy? No, but the JEWISH COMMUNITY CAN. The Black Community has no respect because we are economically weak. We do not pool our resources together, employ our own, build wealth from one family to another. Education is important but understanding the movement of money, building black owned fortune 500 companies and controlling the economy is what they respect!</p>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 15:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Giggles&#039; you spell &#039;thrown&#039; throne when talking about royalty.

Yeah, you might need spell-check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Giggles&#8217; you spell &#8216;thrown&#8217; throne when talking about royalty.</p>
<p>Yeah, you might need spell-check.</p>
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		<title>By: momjay77</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-9997</link>
		<dc:creator>momjay77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that blacks need a book to show that their is a long history of well todo blacks. HOwever would you call blacks who owned slaves elite no every thing that we take from whites is not the same.I find it funny that the so call black elite is kept undergroud and replaced by none educated rappers,and booty shaking hoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that blacks need a book to show that their is a long history of well todo blacks. HOwever would you call blacks who owned slaves elite no every thing that we take from whites is not the same.I find it funny that the so call black elite is kept undergroud and replaced by none educated rappers,and booty shaking hoes.</p>
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		<title>By: solonly01</title>
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		<dc:creator>solonly01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had had enough to say. however, black remains the basic one... after all said and done we did not perish we are still living in this world with management but we&#039;ve to believe that soner or letter all black dreams must come true...Let us not to forget that &quot;we have come a long way and still have a long way to go&quot; and with that we can hope in the brightening future</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had had enough to say. however, black remains the basic one&#8230; after all said and done we did not perish we are still living in this world with management but we&#8217;ve to believe that soner or letter all black dreams must come true&#8230;Let us not to forget that &#8220;we have come a long way and still have a long way to go&#8221; and with that we can hope in the brightening future</p>
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		<title>By: giggles</title>
		<link>http://www.blackinformant.com/uncategorized/tracking-the-black-elite/comment-page-1#comment-5671</link>
		<dc:creator>giggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 08:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have spell check because the use of bad grammar and/or speeling is rampant on this site.
I agree with both gentlemen regarding their views on Mr. Graham&#039;s book. In my opinion the &quot;elite class&quot;, that was referenced specifically by name throughout the &quot;Our Kind of People&quot; book have not done enough to support the more needy members of their race. Which many may assume to be a rather large number given the small list of names that were &quot;droped&quot; as it were. Could it possibly be that only a small number of families (elite class) listed exists versus the large number of families (obviously lower class) that were excluded from the list of names Mr. Graham submitted to his publishing company. Also, I must inject that Mr. Graham mentioned James Weldon Johnson&#039;s brother in the book (both are credited with writing the negro national anthem). He was my greatgrandfathers first cousin ( and so was his brother and our fmaily actually has proof detailing this information), so does that make me special or famous or heir to an elite thrown?
Mr. Duane,
I ask that you not confuse complete dependency with halp and support. I think that it is every man&#039;s responsibility to support himself in the tradition that the Bible suggests. So if a man doesn&#039;t work then he should&#039;t eat and If a man does work, then he will eat (something to that effect).
It is funny that one gentleman considers himself a member of this so colled &quot;elite&quot; bunch, yet given the tone of his conversation one can suppose that given his current rental status he is not in a positive enough position to offer any assistance to help what I assume to be his own people or &quot;Black African Americans&quot;. ( It&#039;s always easy to point fingers, and recognize fault in others).

I am a very proud (but not overtly so, because pride is a sin)to be Black African American young woman. Both my husband and I belong to many of the organizations Mr. Graham mentioned in the book. We are members of Fraternities and sororities, fraternal orders ,greek lettered organizations and even a few of the most coveted organizations as well. We are very active in our community and sit on a few local boards, We are also very active in church and spiritual associations. This leaves our plate very full with responsibility, charity, dedication, love, sacrifice, honor and activity.
I think I forgot to mention that we also have two sons one preparing for his last year of high school and one preparing to enter first grade. Our lives are full indeed.
 My husband without my help makes over 300K per year, our home is modest by many peoples standards (4bed/5bath small gated community with equal portions of all nationalities) but it is paid for, and we are both under forty years of age.
As a youth growing up in South Florida I think I was afforded many opportunties. I too participated in Jack and Jill of America,I was presented as a debutante by a very fabulous Sorority(one in which I hold membeship) and I participated various school activities. Although I didn&#039;t &quot;summer&quot; in Martha&#039;s Vinyard, and Sag Harbor(I have visited), I did take exstensive trips out of the country to places like Africa, Italy, Greece, Mexico, Canada, The Bahamas, Jamaica, and Haiti all before I was legally eligible to drive within these United States.
 I never thought of these experiences as &quot;elitist&quot;. I felt honored to be one of my parents children, to be loved, and excited for the proviledge to experience those things at such an early age.I guess in some cases people lived in the proverbial vaccum and so did their children so in my mind and in my world at the time everyone was able and many I know were willing to provide these types of opportunities for their children. My siblings and I have all traveled well.
In my youth I have had the priviledge of going out religiously for many years(7) to feed the homeless, by making the sandwiches on Monday nights and distributing them on Tuesday nights. I have voluteered on my own without thought of receiving recognition for helping habitat for humanity, local homeless shelters, and individual families that I knew of personally or had been made aware of aparticualar family&#039;s needs.
 I am a giver, a helper, a doer.
Some people can be classified with me, and some people make salaries that dwarf ours tremendously I have associated with all of these types of people my whole life and I do not judge them ( still thinking about the Bible here) I compliment them on what they do in good faith and question continually what they plan to do for the future of our race of people. No one can rest on their laurels around here.
The truth is that if we don&#039;t step up and try to encourage our neighbors to enhance their education( get rid of the slave mentality that is welfare and section 8), reinforce the importance of education, truth and honor in our youth (no saggin pants for boys and no too tight pants for girls),Stop looking down on our own that have already fallen and just lend a hand and pick them up if not with a job,at least the promise of a referal for a job, we will be no better then our white counterpart. Our race will fall as well.
The jews may be all of the negative sterotypes you could name of a group of people only concerned and seamingly obsessed with themselves but the one concept that they adhere to is &quot;a nation of people who forgets it&#039;s past is bound to repeat it&quot;. Those are not only profound words but words to live by. I hope the people who don&#039;t consider themselves &quot;your kind of people&quot;, will get the picture before it&#039;s too late.
God Bless you all!
Oh and P.S. I don&#039;t own my own business yet so I too am not responsible for who gets hired in the end but I put in as many &quot;good words&quot; as possible. (practice what you preach).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have spell check because the use of bad grammar and/or speeling is rampant on this site.<br />
I agree with both gentlemen regarding their views on Mr. Graham&#8217;s book. In my opinion the &#8220;elite class&#8221;, that was referenced specifically by name throughout the &#8220;Our Kind of People&#8221; book have not done enough to support the more needy members of their race. Which many may assume to be a rather large number given the small list of names that were &#8220;droped&#8221; as it were. Could it possibly be that only a small number of families (elite class) listed exists versus the large number of families (obviously lower class) that were excluded from the list of names Mr. Graham submitted to his publishing company. Also, I must inject that Mr. Graham mentioned James Weldon Johnson&#8217;s brother in the book (both are credited with writing the negro national anthem). He was my greatgrandfathers first cousin ( and so was his brother and our fmaily actually has proof detailing this information), so does that make me special or famous or heir to an elite thrown?<br />
Mr. Duane,<br />
I ask that you not confuse complete dependency with halp and support. I think that it is every man&#8217;s responsibility to support himself in the tradition that the Bible suggests. So if a man doesn&#8217;t work then he should&#8217;t eat and If a man does work, then he will eat (something to that effect).<br />
It is funny that one gentleman considers himself a member of this so colled &#8220;elite&#8221; bunch, yet given the tone of his conversation one can suppose that given his current rental status he is not in a positive enough position to offer any assistance to help what I assume to be his own people or &#8220;Black African Americans&#8221;. ( It&#8217;s always easy to point fingers, and recognize fault in others).</p>
<p>I am a very proud (but not overtly so, because pride is a sin)to be Black African American young woman. Both my husband and I belong to many of the organizations Mr. Graham mentioned in the book. We are members of Fraternities and sororities, fraternal orders ,greek lettered organizations and even a few of the most coveted organizations as well. We are very active in our community and sit on a few local boards, We are also very active in church and spiritual associations. This leaves our plate very full with responsibility, charity, dedication, love, sacrifice, honor and activity.<br />
I think I forgot to mention that we also have two sons one preparing for his last year of high school and one preparing to enter first grade. Our lives are full indeed.<br />
 My husband without my help makes over 300K per year, our home is modest by many peoples standards (4bed/5bath small gated community with equal portions of all nationalities) but it is paid for, and we are both under forty years of age.<br />
As a youth growing up in South Florida I think I was afforded many opportunties. I too participated in Jack and Jill of America,I was presented as a debutante by a very fabulous Sorority(one in which I hold membeship) and I participated various school activities. Although I didn&#8217;t &#8220;summer&#8221; in Martha&#8217;s Vinyard, and Sag Harbor(I have visited), I did take exstensive trips out of the country to places like Africa, Italy, Greece, Mexico, Canada, The Bahamas, Jamaica, and Haiti all before I was legally eligible to drive within these United States.<br />
 I never thought of these experiences as &#8220;elitist&#8221;. I felt honored to be one of my parents children, to be loved, and excited for the proviledge to experience those things at such an early age.I guess in some cases people lived in the proverbial vaccum and so did their children so in my mind and in my world at the time everyone was able and many I know were willing to provide these types of opportunities for their children. My siblings and I have all traveled well.<br />
In my youth I have had the priviledge of going out religiously for many years(7) to feed the homeless, by making the sandwiches on Monday nights and distributing them on Tuesday nights. I have voluteered on my own without thought of receiving recognition for helping habitat for humanity, local homeless shelters, and individual families that I knew of personally or had been made aware of aparticualar family&#8217;s needs.<br />
 I am a giver, a helper, a doer.<br />
Some people can be classified with me, and some people make salaries that dwarf ours tremendously I have associated with all of these types of people my whole life and I do not judge them ( still thinking about the Bible here) I compliment them on what they do in good faith and question continually what they plan to do for the future of our race of people. No one can rest on their laurels around here.<br />
The truth is that if we don&#8217;t step up and try to encourage our neighbors to enhance their education( get rid of the slave mentality that is welfare and section 8), reinforce the importance of education, truth and honor in our youth (no saggin pants for boys and no too tight pants for girls),Stop looking down on our own that have already fallen and just lend a hand and pick them up if not with a job,at least the promise of a referal for a job, we will be no better then our white counterpart. Our race will fall as well.<br />
The jews may be all of the negative sterotypes you could name of a group of people only concerned and seamingly obsessed with themselves but the one concept that they adhere to is &#8220;a nation of people who forgets it&#8217;s past is bound to repeat it&#8221;. Those are not only profound words but words to live by. I hope the people who don&#8217;t consider themselves &#8220;your kind of people&#8221;, will get the picture before it&#8217;s too late.<br />
God Bless you all!<br />
Oh and P.S. I don&#8217;t own my own business yet so I too am not responsible for who gets hired in the end but I put in as many &#8220;good words&#8221; as possible. (practice what you preach).</p>
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		<title>By: Black Power</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me say first, that I love my people,even though sometimes we hurt ourselves. The white man will soon be the minority and people of color will be the majority. The poor will always be with us and that won&#039;t ever change. Each of us can help our brothers and sistahs in our own way.

  I&#039;m happy for those who have achieved black elite status, but we can&#039;t always depend on they&#039;re help, though it is expected. We the middle class and poor must contiue to support each other and continue to look to god for our help. We must never forget that even though money itself is not evil, but the root of all evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me say first, that I love my people,even though sometimes we hurt ourselves. The white man will soon be the minority and people of color will be the majority. The poor will always be with us and that won&#8217;t ever change. Each of us can help our brothers and sistahs in our own way.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;m happy for those who have achieved black elite status, but we can&#8217;t always depend on they&#8217;re help, though it is expected. We the middle class and poor must contiue to support each other and continue to look to god for our help. We must never forget that even though money itself is not evil, but the root of all evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont&#039; care what anyone says, rappers are among the most elite blacks in the world...</description>
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		<title>By: Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was only responding/reacting to GMAB&#039;s comment.



I do plan on getting both Our kind of people and his latest book on Amazon. Thank s for the suggestion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was only responding/reacting to GMAB&#8217;s comment.</p>
<p>I do plan on getting both Our kind of people and his latest book on Amazon. Thank s for the suggestion.</p>
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		<title>By: Solacious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solacious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane, I suggest you go to the library and reserve Graham&#039;s Our Kind of People so that you can know his definition of &quot;elite&quot;.  What you describe does not fit Graham&#039;s elite class of people but only what his &quot;elite&quot; consider a step below them, the middle/upper class.  Read the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane, I suggest you go to the library and reserve Graham&#8217;s Our Kind of People so that you can know his definition of &#8220;elite&#8221;.  What you describe does not fit Graham&#8217;s elite class of people but only what his &#8220;elite&#8221; consider a step below them, the middle/upper class.  Read the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Give it a rest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Give it a rest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duane,



I do hear where you are coming from but the point I am trying to make is that in our commmunity you are more likely to find that those balcks that are the employers of other black tend to be a bit more &quot;down to earth&quot; than those that subscribe to &quot;elite&quot; status.  It is the barbershop owners, and beauty-shop owners, Auto-repair shops owners, Daycare centers,  the lower level lawyers, and doctors etc. These are the folks that employ other blacks and are making a difference in our communities. I know community lawyers and doctors, I also know some blacks that are lawyers in &quot;whiteshoe firms&quot;, trust me their is a difference in their outlook on life. Just as there is for the doctor that has a store front in the bronx as opposed to the more successful doctor that is on staff at on of the major hospitals.



As to paying rent. Hey somebody has to do it! The fact of the matter is the majority of folks of all races will be renters before they become homeowners. That is just simple economics. I mention &quot;paying rent&quot; because the majority of balck renters do NOT rent from other blacks. Since there are far more balck renters than homeowners in America why are they mostly renting from memebers of other races if we have a &quot;black elite&quot; class? Somehow those black elties forgot to purchase the property in historically black communities. If I go to rent in Harlem or Bed Stuy today I will most likely be renting from a white or a member of a recent immigrant group, NOT a Elite African American.



Back to good ole Bill, So he fought racisn in Hollywood? Somehow this appears to be more in HIS interest than that of rank and file blacks. And yes I do feel that his recent comments are due to his embrassment of poor black behavior. Growing up amoung so-called bougies blacks I would here this stuff all the time from blacks that have found themselves on the other side of the railroad tracks. If I had a nickel for every time I heard an upper-middle clas black person exclaim &quot;why can&#039;t balck people pull their sh*t together&quot; I would be quite wealthy today.



When black folks that have achived something make such statements they are missing the point. They are turning their back on their responsiblities as &quot;elites&quot;. They need to read or re-read Plato&#039;s Republic.  What happened to the &quot;talented tenth percent&quot; that were supposed to LEAD the race?



P.S. As a married blackman with a household income of well over $100,000 per years (working poor), who grow up middle-class/ upper middle-class I am one of the blacks that can find a great deal of fault with the Cosby Show.  Every single balck professional that I know personally has experienced some form of racism in the workplace. This included doctors,  lawyers, business people with ivy-league educations.  I also grew-up in the neighborhood that the Cosby show was set and we had many problems with racist police and neighbors. I cant recall a single episode of the Cosby show were Cliff or Clare were inexplicably denied a promotion or business opportunity for those unexplainable reasons that all of black folks know all so well.

The Cobsy show in many ways amounted to &quot;Cool-Aide&quot; for White America. By portraying a false world were everything was fine and dandy for those so-called hard working blacks it re-enforced the notion that it is the solely the fault of those blacks that cant get ahead in America.  There is no racism in America of the 1980s! &quot;Good&quot; blacks have made it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duane,</p>
<p>I do hear where you are coming from but the point I am trying to make is that in our commmunity you are more likely to find that those balcks that are the employers of other black tend to be a bit more &#8220;down to earth&#8221; than those that subscribe to &#8220;elite&#8221; status.  It is the barbershop owners, and beauty-shop owners, Auto-repair shops owners, Daycare centers,  the lower level lawyers, and doctors etc. These are the folks that employ other blacks and are making a difference in our communities. I know community lawyers and doctors, I also know some blacks that are lawyers in &#8220;whiteshoe firms&#8221;, trust me their is a difference in their outlook on life. Just as there is for the doctor that has a store front in the bronx as opposed to the more successful doctor that is on staff at on of the major hospitals.</p>
<p>As to paying rent. Hey somebody has to do it! The fact of the matter is the majority of folks of all races will be renters before they become homeowners. That is just simple economics. I mention &#8220;paying rent&#8221; because the majority of balck renters do NOT rent from other blacks. Since there are far more balck renters than homeowners in America why are they mostly renting from memebers of other races if we have a &#8220;black elite&#8221; class? Somehow those black elties forgot to purchase the property in historically black communities. If I go to rent in Harlem or Bed Stuy today I will most likely be renting from a white or a member of a recent immigrant group, NOT a Elite African American.</p>
<p>Back to good ole Bill, So he fought racisn in Hollywood? Somehow this appears to be more in HIS interest than that of rank and file blacks. And yes I do feel that his recent comments are due to his embrassment of poor black behavior. Growing up amoung so-called bougies blacks I would here this stuff all the time from blacks that have found themselves on the other side of the railroad tracks. If I had a nickel for every time I heard an upper-middle clas black person exclaim &#8220;why can&#8217;t balck people pull their sh*t together&#8221; I would be quite wealthy today.</p>
<p>When black folks that have achived something make such statements they are missing the point. They are turning their back on their responsiblities as &#8220;elites&#8221;. They need to read or re-read Plato&#8217;s Republic.  What happened to the &#8220;talented tenth percent&#8221; that were supposed to LEAD the race?</p>
<p>P.S. As a married blackman with a household income of well over $100,000 per years (working poor), who grow up middle-class/ upper middle-class I am one of the blacks that can find a great deal of fault with the Cosby Show.  Every single balck professional that I know personally has experienced some form of racism in the workplace. This included doctors,  lawyers, business people with ivy-league educations.  I also grew-up in the neighborhood that the Cosby show was set and we had many problems with racist police and neighbors. I cant recall a single episode of the Cosby show were Cliff or Clare were inexplicably denied a promotion or business opportunity for those unexplainable reasons that all of black folks know all so well.</p>
<p>The Cobsy show in many ways amounted to &#8220;Cool-Aide&#8221; for White America. By portraying a false world were everything was fine and dandy for those so-called hard working blacks it re-enforced the notion that it is the solely the fault of those blacks that cant get ahead in America.  There is no racism in America of the 1980s! &#8220;Good&#8221; blacks have made it!</p>
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